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Topic: U-12 Emmons or Day? |
Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 5:27 am |
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Another topic prompted this post. Of the user of a universal type tuning, which do you use on your ABC pedals, Emmons or Day?
I use Emmons....JH
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Livin' in the Past and Future with a 12 string Mooney Universal tuning.
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Richard Gonzales
From:
Davidson, NC USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 5:36 am
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| U12 8/5 I love my Day setup as it has its physical advantages for me! |
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Mark Metdker
From:
North Central Texas, USA
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 6:55 am
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| I use an Emmons setup on my Zum and Emmons p/p universals. That's what I started with on E9, and it never occurred to be to change until I read these two threads. |
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Larry Bell
From:
Englewood, Florida
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 7:24 am
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| Makes no difference whatsoever. Just like on a D-10 it's just a matter of preference. Some folks are more comfortable flexing their ankle inward, and others outward. |
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 7:53 am
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Thanks, I agree with that. What prompted this post was another where someone said that the majority of Universal players used the Day setup so I wanted to do a poll to help find out as I believe it's the other way. He's not with us anymore but the late, great Jeff Newman used the Day setup....Thanks, JH
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Livin' in the Past and Future with a 12 string Mooney Universal tuning.
[This message was edited by Jerry Hayes on 03 January 2005 at 07:54 AM.] |
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John Daugherty
From:
Rolla, Missouri, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 7:57 am
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| HI Jerry, I hope things are going good for you. I don't think the U12 has anything to do with it. Some people play "Day" and some play "Emmons". I just happen to use the "Day" setup because I set my first (real)pedal steel up exactly like Ralph Mooney. We didn't have standard setups in those days (1960) and Ralph was there to show me his setup. My Marlen U12 was first owned by Jeff Newman, so it was already set up for me. Jeff did not like to use a B6 lock, so I had Leonard Stadler add a lock before he shipped the Marlen...JD |
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Ben Slaughter
From:
Madera, California
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 9:32 am
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| Emmons on my Carter. It's got the Zero pedal which is cool with the Emmons setup. Wish my Zum had the Zero Pedal. |
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Scott Henderson
From:
Camdenton, Missouri, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 12:46 pm
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EMMONS FOR ME BUT MAKE YOURSELF HAPPY THATS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
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Steelin' away in the ozarks and life,
Scott
www.scottyhenderson.com
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George Macdonald
From:
Vancouver Island BC Canada
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 1:11 pm
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| Emmons on my Carter. Mine is tuned to B6th and I raise strings 4 and 8 with my RR knee to put me in E9th. RL knee lowers 4 and 8 to D and raises my outside Eb to E. This gives me my "missing" D string and also doubles as pedal 6 on a double neck. George |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 1:18 pm
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| U-12 7+8, Emmons on the ABC's, a zero pedal and kinda screwed up 5,6,7 pedals, not standard. |
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Jon Jaffe
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 1:45 pm
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| Emmons, 7 & 4 with only LKL, LKV, RKL, RKR |
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Doug Rolfe
From:
Indianapolis, IN
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 3:22 pm
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Emmons on mine.
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Doug
Dekley 12U 4k & 7p
2-Nash 400 & Quadraverb
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 4 Jan 2005 4:45 am
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So far (Including Jeff Newman) that's 9 for Emmons and 3 for Day.
John D. I don't know how you'd classify Ralph Mooney as he split his G# raises and had one on each side of his "B" pedal...JH
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Livin' in the Past and Future with a 12 string Mooney Universal tuning.
[This message was edited by Jerry Hayes on 04 January 2005 at 04:46 AM.] |
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rpetersen
From:
Iowa
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Posted 4 Jan 2005 5:50 am
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I'm with Ben - I have a 7X5 - Emmons - Put the zero pedal first - than A&B on pedals 2&3 - and it puts all 6 of your B6th pedals together (B thru 7) I put my 4th string E to F# raise on my lever that raises my 9th string B to D to take the place of the C pedal and get along just fine with that - My Zero (1st) pedal drops the 5th string 1 step and my 11th string down 1&1/2 from E down to C# - I already drop the 5th string 1 step with a lever.
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Ron Petersen &
The Keep'n Tyme Band
Mullen Universal 12 - 1975 Session 400 - Nashville 1000
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John Daugherty
From:
Rolla, Missouri, USA
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Posted 4 Jan 2005 6:08 am
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Jerry, The Mooney tuning I referred to was on his 8 string Fender 1000 in the year 1960.
The 1st pedal only raised the 4th string G#. Pedal #2 raised the 4th string G# and 5th string B (Bud Isaacs). Pedal 3 raised the 5th string B and the 1st string G#. Pedal 4 raised the 2nd string E.
20 years later, Frank Arnett told me that he had convinced Ralph to only raise one string with each pedal,1 thru 4(ala Arnett). I played a lot with these guys,played their guitars and knew their tunings.
They may have changed tunings since then, As I did. Have a good one. I wish you didn't live so far from me. We could do some living in the past for sure.......JD |
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 4 Jan 2005 12:20 pm
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I have the Emmons A+B, getting my C with A + knee pull. I like that approach better on a universal. 3,4,5 are screw-ups per Jon Light.
BTW- is the Zero pedal the G#-->G lower, or the PF? or other?
Thanks! |
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Larry Bell
From:
Englewood, Florida
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Posted 4 Jan 2005 1:31 pm
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Since you're counting, mine are ABC (Emmons split), also with a '0' pedal
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Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 5 Jan 2005 4:22 am
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Hey Larry, I see that old Emmons S-12 on your signature. How do you have that setup?...Thanks, JH
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Livin' in the Past and Future with a 12 string Mooney Universal tuning.
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Larry Bell
From:
Englewood, Florida
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Posted 5 Jan 2005 6:18 am
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It's all on my website, Jerry. Just follow the links below. The Beast (my push-pull) is my 'lean and mean' setup (to steal a phrase from my buddy Al Marcus) and The Bomb (my Fessy) has all the bells and whistles. Just look in the 'Equipment' section of my site.
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Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2003 Fessenden S/D-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro, Standel and Peavey Amps
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Larry Phleger
From:
DuBois, PA
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Posted 5 Jan 2005 9:18 am
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| Day on both my Carter and Mullen. I've used the Day setup ever since I started playing pedal steel. It just feels better to me. |
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