What Do You Think of Jerry Garcia's PSG Work?

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What Do You Think of Jerry Garcia's Pedal Steel Work?

1) His playing inspired me to play Pedal Steel
50
33%
2) His playing was interesting to me but not influential
19
13%
3) Didn't pay attention to his playing and don't have an opinion either way
22
14%
4) His playing was good but highly over-rated
20
13%
5) His playing was poor and not much better than a beginner
30
20%
6) Other - Please explain
11
7%
 
Total votes: 152

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chris ivey
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Post by chris ivey »

really...you find that solo brilliant? it sounds just as elementary as most new players trying to fill in a sloppy rock band. grating tone and pitch.
certainly no better than anything jerry did!
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Post by Dennis Montgomery »

chris ivey wrote:really...you find that solo brilliant? it sounds just as elementary as most new players trying to fill in a sloppy rock band. grating tone and pitch.
certainly no better than anything jerry did!
Ya, I do...considering the Exile on Main St era Stones were doing their best to sound like a juiced up and sloppy rock band I think Perkins' juiced up and sloppy pedal steel solo is a perfect fit ;-)
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Glenn Suchan
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Re: I Like Jerry's Playin'.

Post by Glenn Suchan »

Dennis Montgomery wrote:... Also, I always thought Dead Flowers was pedal steel too but according to wiki it's just Mick Taylor on guitar (though I did read the NRPS covered it with Buddy Cage playing a ripping version) ;-)

Here ya' go, Dennis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWE6IR-AF0o

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Post by Glenn Suchan »

Jerry pickin' the steel in a style that is uniquely his:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJdq0OcRK3o

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Dennis Montgomery
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Re: I Like Jerry's Playin'.

Post by Dennis Montgomery »

Glenn Suchan wrote:
Dennis Montgomery wrote:... Also, I always thought Dead Flowers was pedal steel too but according to wiki it's just Mick Taylor on guitar (though I did read the NRPS covered it with Buddy Cage playing a ripping version) ;-)

Here ya' go, Dennis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWE6IR-AF0o

Keep on pickin'
Glenn
Sweet! Love that way out there wailing start to the solo at 2:26...sounds like the bar has a mind of it's own!

Thanks Glenn ;-)
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Post by Chris Allen »

I don’t think that I know enough to say whether Jerry was all that good a PSG player or what. I do know that he is/was better than me… at this point. I’m not sure that if I were handed a song like Teach that I could have ever come up with something that fit so well. He was in the right place at the right time and filled a need at that time.

I can say that through the Dead, NRPS, the Ray Price band, and others I gained and interest and respect for the PSG… sadly it took me another 50 years to get one. But I did and it was because of all those who came before me and who I came of age with. Jerry was part of that.
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Post by Barry Blackwood »

Well said, Chris.
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Post by Mike Neer »

Jerry Garcia admired other great players just like the rest of us. Do you know who his favorite guitar players were? The one he talked most about was Frank Gambale. If you know anything about Mr. Gambale's playing, you might find that surprising, as I did.

Jerry was a unique and free-spirited musician. To me, that is more important than impeccable.
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Post by scott murray »

Jerry was the lead guitarist, lead vocalist, and main songwriter of a successful and very busy rock band. the fact that he is also known for his pedal steel playing and played steel on so many people's records, including the great Teach Your Children, is just a testament to the man's musical ability and appetite.

he lived and breathed music. it's safe to say that if he was awake, Jerry was most likely honing his craft. it's pretty mindblowing to consider all the different hats he wore, and how well he wore them all. bandleader, producer, songwriter, sideman... he played every instrument on his first solo album besides the drums.

it's a shame that so many folks still dismiss Jerry and the Dead as just stoned jamming. yes they liked to improvise (and get stoned), but that's just a small part of what they did. Jerry was most certainly a virtuoso guitarist and a top-notch songwriter. he studied theory endlessly and practiced for hours on end. he was a remarkably intelligent and curious human being, and he applied those traits to the pursuit of making music. he was also incredibly humble.

the simple fact remains: a lot of people do drugs and a lot of people improvise, but nobody else did what Jerry Garcia did. the world is a far richer place thanks to his musical mind, and the fact that we're here talking about his work nearly 50 years later proves it.
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Post by Rick Abbott »

Well spoken, Scott Murray.

So, today I was asked to join a Grateful Dead cover / tribute band. I know the other guys by reputation and it's going to be a killer band. Now I need to figure out how to play some of Jerry's steel parts as I'll be playing steel, acoustic and electric guitars. Headin' for the woodshed, see y'all in a few weeks. :alien:
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Post by Dennis Montgomery »

Rick Abbott wrote:Well spoken, Scott Murray.

So, today I was asked to join a Grateful Dead cover / tribute band. I know the other guys by reputation and it's going to be a killer band. Now I need to figure out how to play some of Jerry's steel parts as I'll be playing steel, acoustic and electric guitars. Headin' for the woodshed, see y'all in a few weeks. :alien:
Sounds like fun, hope you'll be playing Dire Wolf ;-)
Hear my latest album, "Celestial" featuring a combination of Mullen SD12 and Synthesizers:
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Hear my album, "Armistice" featuring Fender 400 on every song:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... 7lPEtsplyW

Hear my Pedal Steel Only playlist featuring Mullen G2 SD12 on covers like Candyman, Wild Horses, Across the Universe & more...
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Post by Bobby Hearn »

It fit what he wanted to express and he enjoyed it. The rest is trivial.
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Post by David Cubbedge »

Rick Abbott, if that cover band doesn't work for you, have them contact me!
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Post by Pete Burak »

Here is Jerry warming up on an Emmons D10.
This is about a year after recording Teach.

Start this vid at the 1:00:20 mark (for about a 4min segment) and you can see some of Jerry's palm blocking, etc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SDWjfsy-GA
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