Putting an old Emmons where it belongs !

C E Holden · Post by **C E Holden** » 7 Apr 2016 4:44 am

This moronic brick-wall discourse is the reason I don't get on the Forum anymore (and haven't really for years) except to peek at what's for sale. I saw Bob and Herb on the topic, and thought it might be thought provoking as they are both good musicians and offer sage advice.
But again, the dolts revolt and the only thought I'm left with is, "On what day did God create the dullard, and couldn't he have rested on that day as well?"
Followed by, "Why am I even on here right now?"

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 7 Apr 2016 9:13 am

Tom Quinn wrote:Yeah, and the folks here whining about that steel probably don't even own an Emmons. Probably 12-string keyless whoo-whoos.

Still wondering about this. Is a "12-string keyless whoo-whoo" an instrument or a person?

Haven't been able to find any answers on The Google.

Lee, from South Texas

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 7 Apr 2016 9:49 am

C E Holden · Post by **C E Holden** » 7 Apr 2016 11:26 am

edited.

Wrestling with pigs, and all that.

John De Maille · Post by **John De Maille** » 7 Apr 2016 2:53 pm

Having played the steel for over 40 years with unknown days,hours and miles under my butt, I guess I can say something about all these posts. Playing country and Western swing music has been my forte' forever, however, I see no restraint on the realm of the PSG. It can honestly be played in any form of music, providing the player has the expertise to perform it. For me, the steel as I heard it has it's roots in Hawaian, Western Swing and Country. As I became more knowledgable of the steel, I became more aware of the Jazz aspect. Jazz is not for me, but, I won't dismiss it at all. So many great players do and have done wonders in that venue and I think that's outstanding.
But, we all have our own opinions on this subject and are certainly justified in saying so. Some are more closed minded on their thoughts and that's their prerogative. These debates can and do get heated quite easily and most times you can't reverse one's seasoned theories. There is no true right or wrong here, folks. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, correct or mis-lead.
Furthermore, personal attacks are a no-no on this forum, by anyone to anyone. Sometimes things are better left unsaid.

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 9 Apr 2016 2:25 am

Ok I can't take it anymore...

I wanna be kind, but I do have to say, this is a Steel Guitar Forum, not a Country Music Forum. Sure most of us are country music fans, lovers and pickers, but not all of us. And even if we are, many of us step outside the box .
We complain that the instrument is fading away but yet when the opportunity presents itself to be in front of a different market (genre) we complain again! Holy Confusion Batman... I guess the Telecaster is only good for country music as well. Man have we all been misguided !

A certain someone should study this photo and see if you can somehow manage to alter your disconnect.

Bill Lowe · Post by **Bill Lowe** » 9 Apr 2016 3:25 am

I cant take it no more.....................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io4RWV681wQ

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 9 Apr 2016 5:05 am

HILARIOUS !

Mark Wayne · Post by **Mark Wayne** » 9 Apr 2016 9:02 am

The tuba player on "A Day In The Life" (on the Beatles "Sergeant Pepper" album) was Michael Barnes.

The Beatles also used tuba on "Martha My Dear," from the White Album.

George Martin could put a stump-fiddle in a Beatles song and make it work

My opinion: I play an Emmons PP, and find myself doing the crying steel about 2 measures a gig - out of a substantial amount of playing ( http://markwayne.biz ). Should probably play that Hughey-land stuff more, but playing this much I really get to see the public's personal viewpoint of what they like when they hear a steel..in my area. I perform all the 50's - 60's classic stuff too, but I get more response from an audience playing "Teach Your Children" than I do a slow, crying song (flame suit on lol).

Of course the demographic is different then New York or Austin than northern Wisconsin, but most folks who come up to me say that they just love the sound of a steel in general, and are glad to hear it, and most of the time not any particular style. That trumps everything (didn't mean to get political).

My dad was my greatest example on diversity: In the basement he played Haggard, Ray Price, Ernest Tubb and all that, but he'd come upstairs, watch TV, and I'd see him listening to Hendrix, Tina Turner, and Forgerty with Kenny Aronoff goin' nuts on drums.

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 9 Apr 2016 9:51 am

with everything as weird as it is lately, i think everyone should post a fairly current avatar of themself to keep things more open, honest and real.

Jim Robbins · Post by **Jim Robbins** » 9 Apr 2016 12:09 pm

Interesting thread. FWIW I have an Emmons (2, in fact) and played six string and a MSA sidekick in lots of honky-tonks back in the late 1970s - early 1980s (or their Canadian equivalents, we call them honk-eh tonks). Lots of fun when you've got them up and dancing.

Going back to the roots, here is the "father of the pedal steel guitar" (according to the SGHOF: http://www.scottysmusic.com/hofplq.htm ). Accroding to the commentsthis is from the 1942 film "Sing your worries away". Unfortunately the honky tonks I played in were not quite so swank and the bands not as good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUbUFd3 ... tml5=False

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 9 Apr 2016 5:20 pm

with everything as weird as it is lately, i think everyone should post a fairly current avatar of themself to keep things more open, honest and real.

I have, chris - I'm a knob...

Tony Prior · Post by **Tony Prior** » 21 Apr 2016 1:23 am

chris ivey wrote:with everything as weird as it is lately, i think everyone should post a fairly current avatar of themself to keep things more open, honest and real.

me too Chris I have peaked, actually saturated my peak point !

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Putting an old Emmons where it belongs !

Tony, just a little humor