Putting an old Emmons where it belongs !

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 29 Mar 2016 10:33 am

Tom Quinn wrote:Bunch of weirdos here. Of course an Emmons D-10 anything belongs in a honky tonk. Instead you get all involved in tuba talk. Go figure...

Thanks for the compliment, Mr. Country.

Tom Quinn · Post by **Tom Quinn** » 29 Mar 2016 7:08 pm

Okay Mr. Polka! ;- )

chas smith · Post by **chas smith** » 31 Mar 2016 6:10 pm

Back in '08, I had just finished rebuilding my wraparound and got a call to sit in for one with Tiger Army. I'm back behind the bass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbyp8fIu2CQ

David Mason · Post by **David Mason** » 1 Apr 2016 12:46 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeBqf6bYZak

We're TRYING, we're trying! Don't plotz yer Pampers over a lack of intent, because that isn't what's holding it back! I think it's lovely that steel guitar just keeps gaining in popularity and there are more and more opportunities to play interesting music, all except at those dreary old honky-tonk drunk factories?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aduDhBDS7w

Someplace else, but via N'Orleans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh8R94H5Y1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI19M5cZ4rk
sigh....
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=208507

Do you like to play with your body organs? Cause here's a brain-tweezer:
If there are ten people in a room and SEVEN of them are purple and THREE of them are green, one might say the greenies are "out-of-place." But time flies like the wind, moons roll around, crops grow,fruit flies like bananas, babes are born, geezers die and before you know it, 25 years have passed!

O.K. So now, let's say THREE purple people, SEVEN green people, Attila the Hun, and Ralph the guy at the auto parts store ALL get on an elevator together: What's the Punchline? So HOOOO's the weirdo NOW?

Roger Rettig · Post by **Roger Rettig** » 1 Apr 2016 5:16 am

It's no contest, David!

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 1 Apr 2016 7:03 am

chas smith wrote:Back in '08, I had just finished rebuilding my wraparound and got a call to sit in for one with Tiger Army. I'm back behind the bass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbyp8fIu2CQ

Sounds great Chas ! Looks like a fun gig. Those wraparounds cut through anything.

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 1 Apr 2016 10:19 am

Tom Quinn wrote:Yeah, and the folks here whining about that steel probably don't even own an Emmons. Probably 12-string keyless whoo-whoos.

Still curious to know what a "12-string keyless whoo-whoo" is. $:\$

Lee, from South Texas

Tom Quinn · Post by **Tom Quinn** » 2 Apr 2016 8:10 am

Lee, if you don't already know, it's best I spare you the details...

Tom Quinn · Post by **Tom Quinn** » 2 Apr 2016 8:10 am

Double post...

Tom Quinn · Post by **Tom Quinn** » 2 Apr 2016 8:12 am

"We're TRYING, we're trying! Don't plotz yer Pampers over a lack of intent, because that isn't what's holding it back! I think it's lovely that steel guitar just keeps gaining in popularity and there are more and more opportunities to play interesting music, all except at those dreary old honky-tonk drunk factories?"

You know nothing about honkytonks or even good music...

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 2 Apr 2016 9:21 am

One of several disappointments in this thread, I regret the inability to make the emoticon larger.

Tom Quinn · Post by **Tom Quinn** » 2 Apr 2016 9:46 am

This is what irritates me to no end:

The constant put down of the rural roots of the pedal steel. You folks who dismiss "honky-tonks" as low brow drunk factories are way off base. The so-called "honky-tonks" were the social gathering places of blue collar workers back in the day.

Sure, there were folks there who drank too much. But most times, it was a husband and a wife, a young couple who wanted to dance on a Friday night. A local or regional band would play and most folks had a good time.

Paul Franklin in the youtube cut above demonstrates what we all know -- he is a tremendous musician who could make Happy Birthday sound like Beethoven. His technique, taste and touch are unsurpassed. Paul also played the signature licks and hooks on thousands of songs that live and lived on juke boxes in every honky-tonk in the world and that is a fact. The same as Buddy Emmons or Pete Drake or Lloyd Green.

You stuck up people who think it is easy to play smoking pedal steel in a live, raucous bar are mistaken. And that is the fertile ground on which the seeds to pedal steel development sprung. I highly doubt that many of you who sneer at this music can actually play it or play it with conviction.

But I can tell you, that if you could, I don't think you would be so dismissive of it. I cannot tell you how many hours I spent playing 33 1/3rd records at slow speeds over and over again back in the day trying to get the licks down so I could head off to some bar or juke joint to give proper respect to the Nashville cat who played the lick originally. And I also cannot tell you how great it felt when I figured it out.

So good luck with your touchy feely music where you think you're hot stuff because you play the occasional MAJ7 chord. Ill stick with Tammy and George, Merle and all the others who played three chords and the truth to a lot of folks who needed their lives revealed in song.

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 2 Apr 2016 10:40 am

How can you say this? I'm sure that at least ninety percent of the steel players came to this instrument because they liked Country Music. I know you don't take me serious, but I stick with Gram Parsons who said (paraphrasing him): Country is not the only music out there, but I choose to play it

Olli Haavisto · Post by **Olli Haavisto** » 2 Apr 2016 10:54 am

I don't think anyone wants to put down the roots of the steel or deny how great it is to play traditional honky tonk on the E9th.
There are, however, people in this thread who imply that it should also stay there.
Don't fence us in.....
I will play a German tour in December with a trio of a kora, an acoustic guitar and steel whether Calvin approves or not.

chas smith · Post by **chas smith** » 2 Apr 2016 11:40 am

So good luck with your touchy feely music where you think you're hot stuff because you play the occasional MAJ7 chord.

This has been around for a while:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plk8H9f69Rs

Barry Blackwood · Post by **Barry Blackwood** » 2 Apr 2016 2:36 pm

O.K. So now, let's say THREE purple people, SEVEN green people, Attila the Hun, and Ralph the guy at the auto parts store ALL get on an elevator together: What's the Punchline?

Who farted?

James Sission · Post by **James Sission** » 2 Apr 2016 2:42 pm

Barry Blackwood wrote:
O.K. So now, let's say THREE purple people, SEVEN green people, Attila the Hun, and Ralph the guy at the auto parts store ALL get on an elevator together: What's the Punchline?
Who farted?

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 3 Apr 2016 6:27 am

If there are ten people in a room and SEVEN of them are purple and THREE of them are green, one might say the greenies are "out-of-place."

Well, we're gonna need to know if one of them is a "12-string keyless whoo-whoo".

Lee, from South Texas

Johan Bandling Melin · Post by **Johan Bandling Melin** » 4 Apr 2016 11:15 am

Bob Hoffnar wrote:This is where my 64 Emmons spent last night.

At the White Horse playing for a packed house of people dancing. It was quite a night ! That Emmons wraparound was just made for clawing its way through the mayhem.

Is that the same as Peter Andersson borrowed from you when we were over in Februari? That one sounded great! This is it from The Continental Club played through a mid 60's Fender Twin Reverb:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b89PZ4SJXDg

Btw thanks for bringing back my rentals! Really appreciated it!

/johan

Bob Hoffnar · Post by **Bob Hoffnar** » 4 Apr 2016 1:15 pm

Johan,
That guitar Peter used was one of those modern 67 Emmons steels. It sounds pretty good too. It was great meeting you guys.

Henry Matthews · Post by **Henry Matthews** » 4 Apr 2016 3:04 pm

I just read this whole thread and let me see if I got this right, you shouldn't play your Emmons wrap around in a honky tonk because Buddy Emmons looks out of place playing Take Me Out To The Ball Game because you can't play C6th in a honky tonk because nobody likes it and tubas are ok but not for the Beatles.
Am I close?

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 4 Apr 2016 3:45 pm

Henry
No, the message is that you should play your Emmons anywhere you damn feel like, and any music you are capable of playing, regardless of the style of music you enjoy. Additionally, you can play a 12-string keyless guitar anywhere you want to, and you can most likely play circles around the guys who think you've chosen the "wrong" guitar. And if you ever lock horns in a jam session with closed minded musicians, I fervently hope that your playing embarrasses them and hurts their feelings, making them realize they should spend more time behind their guitars practicing and less time criticizing their fellow musicians.

Ben Edmonds · Post by **Ben Edmonds** » 4 Apr 2016 4:45 pm

Perfect !

Henry Matthews · Post by **Henry Matthews** » 4 Apr 2016 4:50 pm

You da man Herb

Tom Quinn · Post by **Tom Quinn** » 4 Apr 2016 7:30 pm

No, play anything you want even if you look like a fool. But don't put down the roots of the pedal steel -- hard-core Country and Western... and Herb, seems like that's where this conversation started -- someone bagging on that horrid C&W, right?

Kryptonite for some of you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0GmaR8 ... Da0De_1MQc

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