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gary pierce


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Rossville TN
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2016 12:47 pm    
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Was he using just a chorus, or something else.
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Jim Bob Sedgwick

 

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Clinton, Missouri USA
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2016 2:23 pm    
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He used a small amount of Delay
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gary pierce


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Rossville TN
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2016 5:55 pm    
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Chorus and delay.
Thanks
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chris ivey


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california (deceased)
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2016 6:02 pm    
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are you sure?
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gary pierce


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Rossville TN
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2016 6:11 pm    
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Chris I'm just asking because it sounded like chorus, or flanger to me.
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Jeffery Self


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Spring City,Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 15 Feb 2016 7:16 pm    
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ERNIE Question Question
What say you!! Very Happy
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 15 Feb 2016 7:17 pm    
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i'm just warning that even if you get an answer
on here, it may not be correct.
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Jeffery Self


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Post  Posted 15 Feb 2016 7:33 pm    
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OH Chris!!
Laughing Laughing Laughing

Figured Ernie would be the best candidate for the best answer on that one Oh Well
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 15 Feb 2016 8:32 pm    
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i'd trust ernie. maybe the answer is in 'ask buddy!'
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robert kramer

 

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Nashville TN
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2016 10:01 am    
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I'm sure it was an MXR flanger/doubler - using the doubler setting:


"Houston" was cut August 1983 (Leon Rhodes on guitar)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpCpIh3LdDk

"The Lady Takes the Cowboy Everytime" was cut December 1983

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnpQnC6LcI0

This was a time when if Emmons got a new box - everyone else would get one - even guitar players. I followed the crowd and bought the MXR but eventually sold it to get whatever the next box was Emmons got. (big mistake - they are $500 used now and sounded incredible)

Here are a couple stomp boxes that will get you there. If you get one - I could tell you how I would set it to try and approximate "Houston."

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MS70CDR?adpos=1o5&creative=55282474801&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CNrWzOTt_MoCFQcLaQodmg4B3g

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MS100BT?adpos=1o2&creative=55282474801&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=COvrrYno_MoCFZWMaQod6O0GBQ

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Harmonist?adpos=1o1&creative=55282323841&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CJTWq67n_MoCFQiQaQodCTEBRg

Here is a MXR Flanger/Doubler for $450

https://reverb.com/item/1688639-vintage-mxr-flanger-doubler-blue-face-model-126-dimebag-darrel-eddie-van-halen-randy-rhoads

(One more quick note: try sometime to catch the Gatlin Brothers on the Opry sing "Houston" w/ Mr. Tommy White on steel. The Opry is streamed over WSM online. You be glad you did)


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gary pierce


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Rossville TN
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2016 10:13 am    
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Thanks Robert, I thought it sounded like a flanger. I love that sound on some songs, but not for $500. Maybe I can get my M-OneXL to get close to that.
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Chris Templeton


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The Green Mountain State
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2016 10:22 am    
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The mention of "Houston" reminded me again of what Buddy told me. When he was either driving to or coming from the "Houston" session, which was recorded in Florida, he saw the space shuttle blow up in the sky.
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robert kramer

 

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Nashville TN
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2016 10:58 am    
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Gary - The TC will more than get this sound - but try using the Pitch Shift (Pitch Shift / Detune) algorithm.

All the rack mounts like a TC / Lexicon / Eventide / Digitech, etc. have a "Detune" preset that will get this sound. You can always muddy it up with some EQ to get an analog thing going.
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gary pierce


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Rossville TN
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2016 1:24 pm    
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Thanks again Robert. I'll dig my TC book out, and see how to do it.
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Ernie Renn


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Brainerd, Minnesota USA
Post  Posted 16 Feb 2016 2:34 pm    
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I believe is an Ibanez CS-505 Stereo Chorus. It took two 9 volt batteries. One side was the chorus effect, (which you're hearing), and the other side dry. Great effect. BUT the batteries would last 4-5 days. It ran into a lot of cash. The power supply, which eliminated the need for batteries, added a subtle Bb note to every note. If you were playing a solo with a band you wouldn't notice it, but I used it on a session and it stuck out pretty good. Luckily I had batteries along, as well.

The MXR Flanger/Doubler has a slightly different sound. Buddy used it as a doubler most of the time, keeping the sweep slow to slowly alter the sound of the effect. Listen to the In the Mood for Swingin'album and you'll catch a few places where it's obvious.
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robert kramer

 

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Nashville TN
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2016 5:45 am    
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Ernie - Thanks for the definitive answer. Here is the Ibanez CS-505 Stereo Chorus. These are readily available on eBay and Reverb.com if a player wanted to really zero in on the "Houston" sound. I'm going to listen back to "In the Mood for Swinging" to try and catch the sound of the doubler.

As we know - Emmons was the leader "sound design" for the pedal steel. I remember reading an article where BE said a music store would let him borrow effects to check out.

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Ernie Renn


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Brainerd, Minnesota USA
Post  Posted 17 Feb 2016 8:12 am    
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Check out track number 5, Don't Worry (I'm Not Staying Very Long) from In the Mood for Swingin'...
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