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Topic: Sho Bud 1 and other bisar human values |
Jan Viljoen
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Posted 14 Nov 2013 10:00 pm |
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I am not sure if this post is in the correct section. B0b, please change if you so wish.
I found this pictures of Sho Bud 1 as restored by Show Pro after some water damage in a museum. It shows how simple the original pedal steel was, but how utterly valuable our music heritage is.
The value of this music machine is priceless.
Jeff Suratt restoring Sho-Bud # 1, after the flood of 2010.
"We were commissioned to do this for the Grand Ole Opry. It was indeed an honor, and these photo's are used with curator permission. This guitar was built by Buddy Emmons, and used on "Satisfied Mind" with Don Warden, behind Porter Wagoner."
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In the same vein I post two other pictures of the bisar values that humankind puts on status symbols, just recently. I put a barrier between the maple treasure and what follows.
Im not against art, I own some oils myself.
The first is a faultless pink diamond that was sold for $83 million this week.
The Pink Star was mined by De Beers in 1999 in South Africa, and weighed 132.5 carats in the rough. The Pink Star is the largest known diamond having been rated Vivid Pink. As a result of this exceptional rarity, the Steinmetz Group took a cautious 20 months to cut the Pink. It was unveiled in Monaco on 29 May 2003 in a public ceremony.
The other is a painting by Francis Bacon of his friend Lucian Freud which set a new world record price for an art auction, after selling for $142.4 million (£89 million).
Make up your own mind. Humankind indeed has strange inclinations.
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 15 Nov 2013 11:33 am
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It's great that they could restore it after so much damage. Not sure how the diamond and painting stuff relates to this, but I found it interesting. That is one honkin' ass diamond. It should be inlaid into the front of my guitar.
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chris ivey
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Posted 15 Nov 2013 5:20 pm
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| what does bisar mean to you? why would you use this word? i've never seen it. |
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Frank Freniere
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The First Coast
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Posted 15 Nov 2013 5:28 pm
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| That Sho-Bud wood is Bigsby-ish. |
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Lane Gray
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Posted 15 Nov 2013 10:01 pm
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Chris, I assume that Jan meant "bizarre."
I know I've misspelled words I've only heard, but rarely seen.
Wordgeek side note: every word in the English language for the inexplicable or unexpected (odd, strange, weird, and bizarre: I think there's a fifth, but I can never recall it) originally meant haunted or supernatural.
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Lane Gray
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Posted 15 Nov 2013 10:02 pm
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Chris, I assume that Jan meant "bizarre."
I know I've misspelled words I've only heard, but rarely seen.
Wordgeek side note: every word in the English language for the inexplicable or unexpected (odd, strange, weird, and bizarre: I think there's a fifth, but I can never recall it) originally meant haunted or supernatural.
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Jan Viljoen
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Pretoria, South Africa
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Posted 16 Nov 2013 2:30 am
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Sorry blokes, my bad spelling.
Remember I dont speak English, it is my second language, so many things fly past me.
I was actually asking the question about values.
Would you buy a pink diamond or a strange painting for that amount?
Rather buy an instrument that you can have fun with.
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 16 Nov 2013 6:55 pm
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jan, i'd love to 'be able' to buy a diamond for that much....but i wouldn't. i'd rather have stuff i can use. like instruments and cars, etc. i'd love to be rich, though. it would be very 'bisar' ha ha....
i was afraid you were one of those really smart genius guys talking in quantom mechanics terms or something. |
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Jan Viljoen
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Pretoria, South Africa
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Posted 17 Nov 2013 4:59 am
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Thanks Chris, being rich is a relative term.
I think we all want to be rich.
Lately I think a musician is rich if he can afford a 3x4 pedal steel AND play it well.
That is something you cant buy in a shop.
Actually I am surprised that Sho Bud 1 drew so few comments, with more than 400 hits, why?
This was a milestone in pedal steel building, (with one pedal on the right.) To me anyway.
I am sure they quickly changed that setup, more pedals, strings and levers followed.
Send it folks!
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 17 Nov 2013 1:39 pm
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| Jan Viljoen wrote: |
Would you buy a pink diamond or a strange painting for that amount?
Rather buy an instrument that you can have fun with.
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Definitely an instrument.
Side note: I once played a (6 string) guitar that had previously belonged to Eric Clapton. It didn't make me play and better, or sound like him. In my hands, it was just another guitar.
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Alvin Blaine
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Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 18 Nov 2013 7:35 am
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The Wright Flyer was nearly unflyable. The first autos, without vacuum advance and other early adaptations, were nearly useless by modern standards. While monumental achievements, I don't think they should hold much value except as historical evidence.
The same holds true for Bud 1. It's great that someone restored it, but if it were to have fallen into my hands I'd have just sent it to the folks at Jackson (not the CMA or CMHoF), and might have even asked them to pay for postage. Pedal steels are mechanical makers of music, and their value (to me) relies on their playability and tone.
Call me a heretic.
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Donny Hinson
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Posted 30 Dec 2015 7:13 am The very first Sho~Bud!
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This thread is from a couple of years ago, but I just came across this clip that features the very first Sho~Bud guitar, and I thought it might be interesting to some of you.
Enjoy 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pUDk6XcCSU |
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Charlie McDonald
From:
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Posted 30 Dec 2015 7:57 am
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Thanks. Would never have the opportunity to see ShoBud #1 otherwise.
I find it bisar (love a new word) that Bacon traveled in time to paint Lucien Freud, but not as bizarre as the painting,
but what do I know about art?
Of the three, I think the ShoBud would be priceless. The other two are just pricey. |
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Dan Robinson
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Colorado, USA
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Posted 30 Dec 2015 8:54 am
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Hello Jan,
Thank you for sharing with us a part of pedal steel guitar history. That is something I can, and do appreciate. |
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Ian Worley
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Sacramento, CA
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Posted 30 Dec 2015 12:25 pm Re: The very first Sho~Bud!
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
| ...I just came across this clip that features the very first Sho~Bud guitar, and I thought it might be interesting to some of you... |
Donny, is this Don Warden? I remember reading a post here from Buddy about the first few Sho-Bud guitars, one was for him and I think for Jimmy Day, Pete Drake and Don Warden, but I couldn't find it. He discussed building the wood bodies in a certain order, then Shot assembling and completing them in a different order, such that those first few guitars were all sort of number ones. Perhaps you know the correct story? Nice suit the bass player is wearing.
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 30 Dec 2015 12:35 pm
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| that's speck rhodes who was a comedian on the porter wagoner show. |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 30 Dec 2015 5:44 pm
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| Yes, that's Don Warden on the steel. According to Buddy, as I recall, Jimmy Day got #2, and he (Buddy) got #3...both of which were double necks. |
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Steve Hinson
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Hendersonville Tn USA
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Posted 30 Dec 2015 10:28 pm ...first four Sho~Buds...
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| Ben Keith got one of the first four Sho~Buds...Ben's daughter Heidi told me that it was stolen... |
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Bill Ford
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Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 2 Jan 2016 2:53 pm
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I remember seeing Don play that guitar in person with the Porter Wagoner Show, about the time Dolly was breaking away from Caz Walker I think. Also, wasn't it in the Roy Accuff museum in oryland early 70s?
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Jan Viljoen
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Pretoria, South Africa
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Posted 3 Jan 2016 7:19 am
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Well, this old thread about values has risen from the dead.
Thanks blokes, send it!
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John Billings
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2016 1:47 pm
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I recall watching the Porter Show, and Don had a dark guitar with two pedals. One week the pedals were at the keyhead end, the next they were at the changer end. Or vice versa. There's a video on youtube that shows the pedals at the changer end. Don't have time to find it now tho.
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Ian Worley
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Sacramento, CA
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Posted 3 Jan 2016 2:50 pm
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This one popped right up on youtube, in living color! I didn't see one with the pedals reversed but since the older 'Bud had them on the changer end, I guess guess that the switch to pedals on the "normal" end was later. He played standing up, so no volume pedal or knee levers, apparently some sort of D6 tuning. Should we assume the two pedal setup was just the evolution from the earlier single I-IV pedal to the equivalent of the split A&B?
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2016 3:08 pm
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Dan!
Thanks for finding that! Looks strange eh?
JB
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Dr. Z Surgical Steel amp, amazing!
"74 Bud S-10 3&6
'73 Bud S-10 3&5(under construction)
'63 Fingertip S-10, at James awaiting 6 knees
'57 Strat, LP Blue
'91 Tele with 60's Maple neck
Dozen more guitars!
Dozens of amps, but SF Quad reverb, Rick Johnson cabs. JBL 15, '64 Vibroverb for at home.
'52 and '56 Pro Amps |
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Ian Worley
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Sacramento, CA
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Posted 3 Jan 2016 3:25 pm
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| The older one with only one pedal on that end looks even stranger. Did he only ever play standing? I guess the topic has drifted... sorry Jan |
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