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Quentin Hickey

 

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Post  Posted 6 Dec 2015 4:16 am    
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Is this chord legit (sus4 major 7) and is it doable on a standard C6? Would you ommit the 1? I hear Doug play alot of sus chords but not sure if he has changes or using a standard pedal.
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Christopher Woitach


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Portland, Oregon, USA
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2015 7:08 am    
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It's an uncommon chord, but not hard to achieve

Raise your (2nd) E 1/2 step, lower (3rd) C 1/2 step

You can play low root and 5th, or leave out root

It's usually a case of a melody note that would make you use this chord, as I said, uncommon

Super easy on E9 or Uni, B pedal and D# string
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chris ivey


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california (deceased)
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2015 8:01 am    
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doug who?
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Quentin Hickey

 

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Post  Posted 6 Dec 2015 8:31 am    
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Christopher thanks. Ill check that out when I get home.



Chris ivey...



The best Doug I know on C6!
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Rich Peterson


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Moorhead, MN
Post  Posted 6 Dec 2015 3:38 pm    
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In modern music, sus4 chords are often/usually based on quartal harmony, stacking fourths, rather than tertial, stacking thirds.

Tertial harmony: G . B . D The periods indicate skipped scale notes (A and C.)

Quartal harmony skips two scale notes: G . . C . . F. Move the G up an octave and you see a sus4 chord. C F G.

The added M7 (B) would probably be a melody note.

In traditional music, a suspension is a chord note held over after the harmony changes, But in quartal harmony the sus4 note need not appear in the previous chord.
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Quentin Hickey

 

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Post  Posted 6 Dec 2015 6:00 pm    
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I understand mostly what you mean Rich, but when I play the chord it doesnt sound unpleasant to my ear. I understand that a maj 7 is a resolved chord and a sus is more of a passing chord but if incorporated the right way I think its doable.
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John Alexander

 

Post  Posted 7 Dec 2015 2:33 am    
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In classical music this "sus4 major7" chord is sometimes used as a V7 chord played over the root of the tonic (I) chord, and resolves to the tonic triad, with the major 7 (leading tone) moving up a half step to double the root, and the 4 moving a half step down to become the 3 of the tonic triad. It functions as a V - I cadence.

For an example of this, listen to Beethoven's piano sonata no.1, first movement, in the cadence immediately preceding the first repeat. It's just after 1:16 in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oIdtq9E2ZU
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 7 Dec 2015 10:51 am    
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Quentin this is (or was?) Doug Jernigan's co- pedant on C6:

Just ignore my scribbling Oh Well
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