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Topic: Hey jazz/swing gang - favorite ii V I and turnaround moves? |
Christopher Woitach
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Posted 18 Nov 2015 12:37 pm |
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Just curious for what you all like for your "go to" ii V and turnaround chord moves.. Licks, too, interested in it all!
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Quentin Hickey
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Posted 18 Nov 2015 3:52 pm
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I found a cool spot to sub a 6 minor Chris.
Go back two frets from the open one position and with pedal 7 down swipe 6,5,4,3.
Sounds pretty neat |
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Quentin Hickey
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Posted 18 Nov 2015 3:58 pm
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| Another one I learned from 6 string cats is when you are in a 2 minor, instead of going to the 5 7th, go from 2 minor to a 2b minor than resolve to the one chord. Going back chromatically, I noticed Tommy and Paul do these lines once I learned and became aware of them. |
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Christopher Woitach
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Christopher Woitach
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2015 4:55 pm
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Very similar to Quentin's min7, go back 2 from open position, lower string 5 a whole step, move back 1 fret, P5, then resolve to the open 1 fret higher. On the 2nd chord, a V7#5b9, you can also lower the A string for a V7#5, if you prefer
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Christopher Woitach
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Quentin Hickey
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Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 18 Nov 2015 6:43 pm
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| Christopher. I was just messing around with E's blues to use. There are some really swag 2 5 1 turnarounds in Bd. |
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Christopher Woitach
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2015 8:06 pm
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Yes! Very nice stuff there, very useful for everything, not just the blues
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John Alexander
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Posted 18 Nov 2015 9:17 pm
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| Christopher Woitach wrote: |
| go back 2 from open position, lower string 5 a whole step, move back 1 fret, P5, then resolve to the open 1 fret higher. |
See if I have this right: Assuming this is C6 tuning, you would be resolving to F major at fret 5 via C7+5-9 at fret 4 with pedal 5. For the II are you starting at fret 3 ("go back 2 from open position") or fret 5 (implied by "move back 1 fret, P5" to get to C7+5-9). Seems to me like II is on fret 5 with the fifth string lowered a whole step. I also like to get the C7+5-9 at the same fret as the II, by keeping the fifth string lowered a whole step, and lowering the third and fourth strings a half step each (which in the Maurice Anderson's Bb6 setup could be done with left knee vertical and pedal 3 - I have a slightly different configuration now, but can get the same notes), which provides the root of the chord on top if you are playing Bb6 or have a high G open string on C6. |
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Jim Fogarty
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Phila, Pa, USA
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Posted 18 Nov 2015 9:20 pm
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| Quentin Hickey wrote: |
| Another one I learned from 6 string cats is when you are in a 2 minor, instead of going to the 5 7th, go from 2 minor to a 2b minor than resolve to the one chord. Going back chromatically, I noticed Tommy and Paul do these lines once I learned and became aware of them. |
Making that 2b a dominant chord sounds even hipper. |
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Christopher Woitach
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2015 4:36 am
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I meant -
If in F, and in C6
Fret 5 lower G string to F (makes a Gm9, 2 down from open position of G)
I should also say - I'm always translating from Maurice's Bb6 S12, so I might easily, when attempting to speak C6, stumble!!![/quote]
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John Alexander
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Posted 19 Nov 2015 11:47 am
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| Christopher - That clears it up for me - thanks. |
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Christopher Woitach
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2015 7:29 am
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My favorite V-I chordal lick:
(Assuming C6 standard set up - Bb6 is 2 strings lower and 2 frets higher....)
4 up from open position, P5 with 3rd lowered 1/2 step
Strings 3,5,7 together, then pick string 4
Go down 3 frets and do the same thing
Resolve down one fret to Maj7, Root on 9th string
If in key of C, playing from G7 to CMaj7:
Fret 11 (G7#9), then fret 8 (E7#9, which acts like G7b9 here), resolve on fret 7, CMa7
If you like, you can continue down or up 3 frets as these chords relate to each other that way - similar to diminished chords, but not an exact inversion like dim7 chords (P5,6) are
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Christopher Woitach
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 20 Nov 2015 9:25 am
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Oldie but a goodie
3 up from open (min7), 3rd string lowered a half step, strum 8-3
Slide up 3 frets, 3rd still lowered, P6, strings 9-3
Down 1 fret, pedals off, strings 9-3, resolving Maj7
In C6, key of C:
Fret 5 (Dm9)
Fret 8 (Db7b5)
Fret 7 (CMaj9)
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