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Tim Russell


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Post  Posted 2 Oct 2015 2:10 pm    
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Are there any albums/cd's/releases that Willie features steel on?

I know Jimmy Day played with him off & on, and a few others, but I can't really recall any "heavy steel" music that Willie has recorded.

I know that Buddy & Willie were good friends - any recordings of them together?
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 2 Oct 2015 2:39 pm    
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'phases and stages' with the great john hughey.
'shotgun willie' has some jimmy day.
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Jerry Jones


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Post  Posted 2 Oct 2015 2:45 pm    
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You Don't Know Me: The Songs Of Cindy Walker - with Buddy Emmons


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Brett Day


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Post  Posted 2 Oct 2015 7:12 pm    
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A version of "Me and Paul" featured Weldon Myrick
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Russ Wever

 

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Post  Posted 2 Oct 2015 7:17 pm    
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"Country Favorites - Willie Nelson Style"
has Bud Charleton all over it ~> click


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Bob Lawrence


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Post  Posted 2 Oct 2015 7:52 pm    
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re:You Don't Know Me: The Songs Of Cindy Walker - with Buddy Emmons

From the David Letterman Show: Willie (and Trigger) pays tribute to Cindy Walker

There is some steel guitar but I don't know who the steel player is. The backup band is awesome Smile

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQog-0VVnE0


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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 2 Oct 2015 7:54 pm    
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Brett Day wrote:
A version of "Me and Paul" featured Weldon Myrick


...from the"Yesterday's Wine"album...my favorite Willie record...when I got my first steel,I listened to this album 10,000 times...osmosis is real.
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Russ Wever

 

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Post  Posted 2 Oct 2015 8:18 pm    
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Bob Lawrence wrote:

There is some steel guitar but I don't know who
the steel player is. The backup band is awesome



Jon Graboff (New York City) is the steelplayer.

Too bad the performance was so flawed by Willie
being so far ahead of the backing band (and, no,
it wasn't due to Willies playfulness with meter).
Looks like Scheafer was aware of it early-on.
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Bob Lawrence


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Post  Posted 2 Oct 2015 9:30 pm    
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@ Russ Wever

re: steel player

Thanks!!


Don't You Ever Get Tired Of Hurting Me~Willie Nelson.wmv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knxNMTk9H9w

(Beautiful steel Very Happy Very Happy )
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Uploaded on 24 Sep 2011
From the 1966 album "Country Favorites-Willie Nelson Style"...
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 2 Oct 2015 10:23 pm    
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With Jimmy Day:

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Too bad the performance was so flawed by Willie
being so far ahead of the backing band

I could barely listen, because of this. I wonder how the band managed to prevent a trainwreck Surprised
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Tim Russell


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Post  Posted 3 Oct 2015 3:33 am    
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Russ Wever wrote:
Bob Lawrence wrote:

There is some steel guitar but I don't know who
the steel player is. The backup band is awesome



Jon Graboff (New York City) is the steelplayer.

Too bad the performance was so flawed by Willie
being so far ahead of the backing band (and, no,
it wasn't due to Willies playfulness with meter).
Looks like Scheafer was aware of it early-on.


Yeah, that was pretty bad. I think we've all played with performers that rushed time or see-sawed badly, and this one is a good example of that. I wonder what the issue was - maybe Willie's monitors weren't turned up to where he could hear the band well? The bass line punctuated the time well enough that he should have been able to follow without a problem...
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Frank Freniere


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Post  Posted 3 Oct 2015 4:07 am    
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Wille did an album "San Antonio Rose" with Ray Price that had the Big E all over it.
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Jack Stanton


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Post  Posted 3 Oct 2015 4:52 am    
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Willie had an album in the early 90's called Just On Love that had Buddy Emmons all over it.
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Mitch Drumm

 

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Post  Posted 3 Oct 2015 5:08 am     Re: Willie Nelson steel guitar music?
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Tim Russell wrote:
Are there any albums/cd's/releases that Willie features steel on?..........

I can't really recall any "heavy steel" music that Willie has recorded.



Not sure what "heavy steel" music is, but....

It's always seemed to me Willie's most significant use of steel guitar was in the so-called "demo" recordings he made for Pamper Music in the early 60s. Very sparse instrumentation with Jimmy Day to the front on most of them. These demos feature a number of titles Willie didn't often sing or record later in his career.

They weren't released until the 1980s when they leaked out on a bunch of budget label LPs in a disorganized and uncoordinated mess, with no liner notes or documentation.

Some of them have since been on CD, but I don't think there has yet been an authoritative collection that tries to release all of them at one time. I'd like to see it done.

Here's a complete or near complete list of the titles. If you see a CD with a bunch of these titles, it's a pretty good chance it's the demo versions with Jimmy.


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Roger Rettig


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Post  Posted 3 Oct 2015 7:38 am    
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I just can't listen to Willie for more than a few measures (my measures, not his!!!) It's just too disconcerting and detracts from whatever song is getting the Nelson treatment.

Nice to see Jon and his gorgeous JCH!
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Tim Russell


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Post  Posted 3 Oct 2015 11:51 am    
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Not sure what "heavy steel" music is, but....


Well, songs/albums that Willie released that feature a prominent amount of steel guitar, kind of like what comes to mind with John Hughey/Vince Gill albums... 'nuff said! Mr. Green

I had a chance to listen to 'phases and stages' - very little featured steel on that one, sadly. I thing there was a C neck song where John got to stretch his legs a little.

I will check out the other - thanks so much for all of the suggestions so far.
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 3 Oct 2015 10:53 pm    
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The album I suggested features Jimmy Day on each of the thirteen cuts. Remakes of older songs with a small ensemble.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6TjABu6Pso

From another album, it sounds a lot like Buddy or?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCjXENTluBo
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Ben Edmonds


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Post  Posted 4 Oct 2015 4:58 am    
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I guess I have a different version of phases and stages. There is some beautiful steel playing in there... I guess it's not tons of steel but what is played is heavy in a better sense😉
Jimmy Day on shotgun willie is some of my favorite playing period.
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Graham


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Post  Posted 4 Oct 2015 5:01 am    
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Willie recorded an lp in 1968 at RCA with Jimmy Day on steel tentatively called "Good Ole' Country Singin'". The album never got past the planning stages for release but was finally released on cd in 2000, under that title.

Only 2 songs where Jimmy shines - Tender Years and I Don't Feel Anything. Something To Think About has steel but not as pronounced as the afore mentioned songs.
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Bo Legg


Post  Posted 4 Oct 2015 5:44 am    
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Russ Wever wrote:
Bob Lawrence wrote:

There is some steel guitar but I don't know who
the steel player is. The backup band is awesome



Jon Graboff (New York City) is the steelplayer.

Too bad the performance was so flawed by Willie
being so far ahead of the backing band (and, no,
it wasn't due to Willies playfulness with meter).
Looks like Scheafer was aware of it early-on.


Willie was in a hurry to get out of there!
I think Willie was very avware of Scheafer's totally out of place intro followed by more of Scheafer's (I don't have a clue what to do so I'll throw in some (Do wah diddy diddy, dum diddy do)through the song.
I could read it in Willie's face. Get me the .... out of here.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 4 Oct 2015 6:43 am    
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I didn't see anything wrong with the intro, it was about as "Sears & Roebuck" as you could ask for. What followed was either the most artfully-stylized version of that song, or the biggest train-wreck you're ever likely to hear...depending on your point of view.
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robert kramer

 

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Post  Posted 4 Oct 2015 6:44 am    
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Tim - Buddy Emmons is on Willie Nelson recordings 1966 / 1976 / 1980 / 1984 / 1994 / 1995 /2005 / 2006 and probably more. (If anyone knows of any more with Emmons please reply).

If you only have time to listen to one - listen to "Something The Think About" but not if you're behind the wheel.

"A Wonderful Yesterday"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CddUJX4XKi8

"The Party’s Over"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoQZ0qmf-mk

"One in a Row"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXLfHJ6fIJo

"Make Way For a Better Man"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjkaphh4_GY

"Something to Think About"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmoiMCibtXA

"Please Don't Leave Me" Darrell McCall w/ Willie Nelson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfXl9aHfk_4

"Turn Me Loose and Let Me Swing" w/ Curtis Potter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7L9Bz1dWc4

"Half a Man" Willie Nelson & George Jones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRbqKeLSSpQ

Things Better Left Forgotten [Buddy Emmons: ebow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V92WtD_sZA4

"I Gotta Have My Baby Back" w/ Ray Price & Merle Haggard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxTZIq2t3xs























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Donny Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 4 Oct 2015 6:50 am    
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Google's "autoplay" followed with this version of that great song, and I think that this is what they were attempting to pull off on the Letterman show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX_vYXvATA0
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Tim Russell


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Post  Posted 4 Oct 2015 10:42 am    
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Donny Hinson wrote:
I didn't see anything wrong with the intro, it was about as "Sears & Roebuck" as you could ask for. What followed was either the most artfully-stylized version of that song, or the biggest train-wreck you're ever likely to hear...depending on your point of view.


LOL Laughing

That's the best forward/liner notes ever written! You have a way with words, Mr. Hinson.
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Brett Lanier

 

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Post  Posted 6 Oct 2015 11:11 pm    
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Here's a good one, sounds like Buddy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyD9hXOoOVk
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