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Smiley Roberts
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Hendersonville,Tn. 37075
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Posted 23 Aug 2004 1:27 am |
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Just a bit of trivial info here. The case for this guitar is,most likely,the original.
I don't believe it's "metal",but a fibre type material,similar to the hard-shell amp covers made a while back. It has brass rivets in it,to give it that "armored" look.
The case was,most likely,made by Hooper Trunk Co. of Nashville,which has been out of business for years. They were very sturdy cases,as witnessed by this account.
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Ed Naylor
From:
portsmouth.ohio usa, R.I.P.
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Posted 23 Aug 2004 4:30 am
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| Smiley- Itis a Hooper case. A story goes Shot and Chalker were driving down the highway with Chalker's Guitar in one of these cases on Shots T-Bird. It flew off and went sliding down the highway and after finally stopping they found no damage on the Guitar. Just another little Steel story I thought I would share.Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works. |
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Jim Phelps
From:
Mexico City, Mexico
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Posted 23 Aug 2004 9:31 am
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2004 2:13 pm
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Hey Jim; the stuff the seller wrote that is below what I emailed him, was what he originally had for the description. Then I emailed him and gave him a little more info/insight to what that Shobud actually is.....ha...and I suppose he probably should of got rid of his orginal description but didn't...oh well.
He did say his "buddy" was only a guitar playin' friend and not particularly a steel player.......which is mostly the case on alot of these folks selling on Ebay as they are music stores and swap musicians and never really know what it is they have..ha.
I believe the fretboard is the original white background Sho~bud fretboard that came on alot of these old permenants and fingertips...>but that was during the big bible belt influence where some folks didn't care for "Card Suits" as a bad example; and would paint over them...as what that looks like to me..ha.
If anyone really wants this Sho~bud; please don't win it and send it to me..ha...cause I can't do a darn thing with it..  
They are GREAT sounding pedal steels though and if someone wanted to do a new crossbar situation underneath...It could be KILLER...
Ricky |
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Jim Phelps
From:
Mexico City, Mexico
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Posted 23 Aug 2004 8:03 pm
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 23 Aug 2004 10:44 pm
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Ricky, what was the permanents copedent?
I am curious what they thought was standard back then.
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 24 Aug 2004 3:15 am
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| Fortunately, I already HAVE a guitar that sounds "really trippy with the reverb function." |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 24 Aug 2004 8:56 am
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David; that's a hard question to field...as I've sat down to probably 5 different Permenants and each one was set up different..ha....>so I would suspect; that is was the call of the buyer at that time and not a standard setup(that's my guestimation) But all of them that I sat down too had the Emmons 1 thru 8 pedal setup(uh..duh..)ha...as Buddy was building them with Shot at the time. Buddy probably knows more of if there was a standard that went out; because I generally don't reseach copedents, before the time that Sho~bud actually had a standard copedent.
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 24 Aug 2004 9:33 pm
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| Ricky is correct ( again ), tunings, number of pedals, changes and strings per neck at that time were all optional on Sho Buds. The -62 catalog shows D9's, D8's T8's, D10's with variety number of pedals. I own a -63 D10 with seven pedals and I've had a -62 D9 with six pedals. I think I once read that if the customer didn't specify the tunings, the guitar was shipped with whatever Buddy Emmons was using at the time. The guitar on ebay is later than -62 I think. It has the longer extending endplates, rollers on the nut and the adjustable bridge. These features were not in use in -62. Also the front neck tops were more roundly shaped at the endplates to meet the curve on the endplates on the earlier guitars. This one has the square raising endplates. The decal is missing, so we don't know if it's a Madison or Nashville made. A Madison decal would date it to pre-64. Also the serial number is kinda puzzling, I haven't been able to found any on my permanents. |
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Russ Wever
From:
Kansas City
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Posted 25 Aug 2004 3:50 am
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"The serial number is 07652, which is hand engraved into the metal chassis, he thinks that this means that it was the 76th pedal steel made in 1952, . . . "
Of course we know Buddy hadn't even moved to Nashville yet in 1952.
I'd more likely think 07=July 65=1965 and 2=second steel built in July, '65.
~Russ
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Roger Edgington
From:
San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 26 Aug 2004 2:54 pm
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| I once had a Madison,Tenn Sho-Bud and was similar to the one shone. Mine had the same case and white fret boards, but had the standard hearts and clubs as well as the cluster decal on the front center panal. However,the underside of mine did not have modern looking cross bars like this one. It was a bunch of rods and bellcranks going all directions and rather difficult to alter setups. Mine was probably a late 50s or early 60s and had tone to die for. |
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Reggie Duncan
From:
Mississippi
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Posted 26 Aug 2004 8:30 pm
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| Does anyone have a Madison,Tenn Sho-Bud? |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 26 Aug 2004 9:41 pm
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I do! The -63 D10 I mentioned was made in Madison. Also the D9 I had was a Madison made, you can see pictures of that guitar here: http://www.planet.eon.net/~gsimmons/shobud/month.html
I took those pictures when I was selling the guitar to Andy in Germany. I have no idea if he still has it. |
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Mark Durante
From:
St. Pete Beach FL
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Posted 29 Aug 2004 6:11 am
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Ricky,
What's your take on the decal, has it been removed or are the letters just faded? Have you ever seen any others from this era with faded decals?
Will be interesting to see what it finally sells for. |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 29 Aug 2004 7:07 am
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| Well, I'm no Ricky, but I doubt fading has anything to do with it. Originally the decals were attached and a coat ( or two ) of lacquer was added on them. On some cases, like with the card cluster decal on my D9, the decals started "bubbling" and coming off during the years. Probably due to the humidity changes during the years. Maybe with this particular guitar, the decal had just started to peel off and it was removed. |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 29 Aug 2004 7:53 am
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Hey Jussi pretty much summed it up. Those are water decals under the lacquer and over the years the lacquer thins and bubbles and therefore exposing the water decal and there ya go.
Ricky |
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