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Topic: Big E's Time With Roger Miller? |
Sonny Jenkins
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Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
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Posted 23 Mar 2015 5:46 am |
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| When Buddy was playing bass for Roger, was there a steel player in Roger's band???,,,,if so,,,,who? (Seems I remember that it was several years that Buddy played bass,,,,and kinda avoided steel,,,,,correct me if I'm wrong). |
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Billy Easton
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Posted 23 Mar 2015 7:07 am
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I was at a concert at Eastern Illinois University in Charleston, Illinois where Buddy was playing bass for Roger. I think it was about 1961 or 1962. There was no steel guitar on stage. Thumbs was playing lead guitar...it may have been later than that, but certainly prior to 1970.
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Lane Gray
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Posted 23 Mar 2015 8:34 am
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Point of order: There WAS a steel player on stage. He just wasn't playing his steel
You're welcome.
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Joachim Kettner
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Posted 23 Mar 2015 8:39 am
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But I read it was '67, that Roger Miller hired him on bass, and during that time and for a few years on he did a lot of sessions in L.A.
Are you sure early sixties is correct, Billy?
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Mitch Drumm
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Posted 23 Mar 2015 9:16 am
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I saw Roger in Reno circa 1966-68.
No steel player. I'm reasonably sure Buddy was on bass at that time, although I'm not sure I would have recognized the name "Buddy Emmons" at that time. Maybe.
And my memory is too dim to recall if Roger had Thumbs Carlille on guitar.
Used to see Roger creeping around the alleys of Reno in one of Bill Harrah's Rolls-Royces, which Harrah provided to his club headliners. |
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Billy Easton
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Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2015 9:20 am
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Corrected my post, guys, thanks. It is early in Arizona...
Billy
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robert kramer
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Nashville TN
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Sonny Jenkins
From:
Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
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Posted 24 Mar 2015 5:36 am
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I thought I had read somewhere that this was kind of a "down" time in his life (maybe some "burn out,,,or ???), and he had put steel guitar aside for a while, which was why he was playing bass for Roger???,,,but, if in fact he did those recordings during a "down" time,,,,wish I could have that kind of "down" time,,,,,LOL.
Wish that biography had come to fruition,,,,, |
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Frank Freniere
From:
The First Coast
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Posted 24 Mar 2015 7:37 am
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| Sonny Jenkins wrote: |
| Wish that biography had come to fruition,,,,, |
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Greg Cutshaw
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Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2015 7:53 am
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| I'd like to know the names of the tunes that Buddy had selected for Steel Guitar Jazz and didn't record because the musicians weren't familiar with them. Then I wish Buddy ahd gone back int he studio a few years later and recorded them! |
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Chris Templeton
From:
The Green Mountain State
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Posted 24 Mar 2015 9:38 am
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I remember Buddy telling me a story about driving in a city with Roger (I can't remember the city) and members of Chicago pulled up next to Roger, who was driving, and they said something to each other. They spied Buddy in the passenger seat and said something like "is that Buddy Emmons?".
At the next light, the pulled up to Buddy's side of the car to speak with him. :0)
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robert kramer
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Nashville TN
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Posted 24 Mar 2015 5:44 pm
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Sonny Jenkins - I think might have misunderstood your original post - you might have meant did: Buddy Emmons play the steel live while he was playing bass with Roger Miller. He probably worked club dates in LA with various artists as he did at the Sundance Saloon in Calabasas, CA with Don Everly. He also appeared with Roger Miller on Hee Haw #45 (10/71 taping) playing steel on "That's the Way I Feel."
Speaking of Emmons' time off from playing steel - here's a few dates from these years!
Buddy Emmons, Jay Dee Maness, Red Rhodes, Sneaky Pete, Rusty Young
“Suite Steel - The Pedal Steel Guitar Album” Elektra EKS-74072
1970 (s)
Elektra Sound Recorders 962 North La Cienega Boulevard Los Angeles, CA
John Boylan A Great Eastern Gramophone Production
Buddy Emmons, Jay Dee Maness, Red Rhodes, Sneaky Pete, Rusty Young:stl gtr; John Boylan; pno & gtr; John Guerin: drms; Joe Osborn: Fender bs; Bob West or Lyle Ritz: ac bs; Jim Yester ac gtr; Jo Ellen Yester: ac gtr
Down On The Corner - Buddy Emmons
Blackbird - Sneaky Pete
Everybody's Talkin' - Rusty Young
Wichita Lineman - Buddy Emmons
Muddy Mississippi Line - J.D. Maness
Something - Red Rhodes
Sunshine Of Your Love - Sneaky Pete, Rusty Young
Yesterday - Buddy Emmons, Sneaky Pete
Turn Any Corner - Buddy Emmons
L'hiver Sur La Plage - Buddy Emmons
Prodigal - Rusty Young
Roger Miller “A Trip in the Country” Mercury SR-61297 6/10-12 (s) 9/70 (r)
Mercury Custom Recording Studio, 1512 Hawkins St., Nashville, TN
Jerry Kennedy
Roger Miller: vcls; Harold Bradley: gtr; Ray Edenton: gtr; Charlie McCoy: gtr; Chip Young: gtr; Pig Robbins: pno; Buddy Harman: drms; Buddy Emmons: stl gtr; Tommy Jackson: fdl; Buddy Spicher: fdl
When Two Worlds Collide
My Ears Should (Burn When Fools Are Talked About)
A World So Full Of Love
Invitation To The Blues
Tall, Tall Trees
Don't We All Have The Right
That's The Way I Feel
Shot Jackson & Buddy Emmons “Two Aces Back to Back” K-Ark K-6028 ca.1971 (s)
John Capps
Shot Jackson: dbr; Buddy Emmons: stl gtr; Vassar Clements: fdl + unknown musicians
Banks of the Pontchartrain
Mansion on the Hill
No One Will Ever Know
Red Wing
Linda Lou
Maiden’s Prayer
Footprints in the Snow
Crazy Arms
Together Again
So Lonesome I Could Cry
Blues Eyes Crying in the Rain
Hold It
Gram Parsons “GP” Reprise MS 2123 8-9/72 (s)
Wally Heider Recording Studio 4 6373 Selma Ave., Hollywood, CA
Gram Parsons & Ric Gretch
Gram Parsons and Emmylou Harris: vcl & gtr; James Burton: gtr & dbr; Barry Tashian: vcl & gtr; Alan Munde: bnjo; Al Perkins or Buddy Emmons: stl gtr; John Conrad: bs; Ronnie Tutt/John Guerin/Sam Goldstein: drms; Byron Berline: fdl; Glen D. Hardin: pno & org; Hal Battiste: bsax
[Buddy Emmons: stl gtr]
She
That's All It Took
The New Soft Shoe
Sleepless Nights (possibly Buddy Emmons: stl gtr / possibly recorded on these dates) |
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Joachim Kettner
From:
Germany
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Posted 25 Mar 2015 4:20 am
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| ...and members of Chicago pulled up next to Roger... |
Not quite sure if you mean the band, Chris?
That's quite interesting if that's so. I could swear I've heard an alternative version of one of their hits, it might have been "If You Leave Me Now" with steel, but I couldn't find the source.
I have three albums by Roger Miller from that time, no steel on it. Except of course that one mentioned by Robert: "A Trip In The Country".
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Sonny Jenkins
From:
Texas Masonic Retirement Center,,,Arlington Tx
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Posted 25 Mar 2015 4:46 am
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| Sounds like it was more of a "break from Nashville" than it was a "break from steel guitar".,,,maybe some personal issues (as we all have at one time or another) during that period of time,,,, |
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Jim Smith
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Midlothian, TX, USA
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Charlie McDonald
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Posted 25 Mar 2015 8:25 am
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This is the first time I've heard steel in an orchestral setting; it's a great version.
It makes me wonder what Emmons could do with Mancini; any tracks?
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 25 Mar 2015 9:33 am
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| It looks like the YouTube videos have been removed, but Buddy played both steel and bass with Roger on an episode of Hee Haw: |
I'd be curious to know who that "third party" is that put the kibosh on these videos.. 
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Gary Spaeth
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 25 Mar 2015 9:41 am
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| don't forget the black album was recorded during this time. love that raw pp tone during that time even though his "smoothed out" tone in later years was also great. |
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Jerry Hedge
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Norwood Ohio U.S.A.
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Posted 25 Mar 2015 5:26 pm
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| "Someday Soon"...two of my musical heroes, Buddy and James Burton and the Wrecking Crew. Does it get ANY BETTER? |
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robert kramer
From:
Nashville TN
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Posted 25 Mar 2015 6:14 pm
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Charlie McDonald - Emmons was on Henry Mancini's “Country Gentleman His Piano, Orchestra and Chorus" recorded in LA and released in 1974 on RCA. I couldn't find any cuts on YouTube or iTunes. But here's on a 1971 orchestra date with Ray Charles:
"The Long and Winding Road"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIQTxQz_hvQ |
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Ernie Renn
From:
Brainerd, Minnesota USA
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 26 Mar 2015 2:41 am
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Thank you, Robert; what a wonderful piece by Ray.
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Bill Ford
From:
Graniteville SC Aiken
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Posted 27 Mar 2015 3:53 pm
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| Charlie McDonald wrote: |
This is the first time I've heard steel in an orchestral setting; it's a great version.
It makes me wonder what Emmons could do with Mancini; any tracks? |
BE played on Mancini Country.Read where Buddy said,he bluffed his way through this session cause he couldn't read music. Went and bought a piano and tought himself to read.
Robert Kramer, were you referring to the "Mancini Country" album?
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 27 Mar 2015 3:55 pm
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Son of a gun.
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Bill Ford
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