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Topic: lost my 6th string lower on my p/p |
TRAP TRULY
From:
Mobile , AL
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Posted 25 May 2004 9:19 pm |
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I had this whole tone drop working on my verticle lever E9 and the problem was the tip of the lever was stopping on the swivel on the bellcrank,not the set screw causing the snap ring to eventually come off.I moved the bellcranks out of the way to fix the problem and now the E9th change doesnt work.I adjusted the setscrew to give it more travel and it still doesnt work.I need to also add that this lever was also set up w/ a 4th string lower on the C6 which i cant get to and never use.Probably would be good to do away with that one.Oddly it still works but the E9th does not. Any of the push pull experts have any ideas?
thanks alot, trap |
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TRAP TRULY
From:
Mobile , AL
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Posted 26 May 2004 3:35 pm
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Mark Herrick
From:
Bakersfield, CA
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Posted 26 May 2004 4:05 pm
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I'm not a P/P expert since I struggle with mine myself.
I'm having trouble visualizing what you describe. It sounds like the lever was bottoming out on a bellcrank swivel instead of the lever stop screw?
You should first check the changer finger for that lower and make sure you can activate the lower by moving the finger manually (with your own fingers) to confirm that there is nothing binding the changer finger and the changer for that lower is in tune. If the lower can be activated to the correct pitch manually then the changer is in tune. If it can't, you need to adjust the lower tuning screw in the end plate. Then you need to adjust the rod collar at the bellcrank and the lever stop screw.
However, it seems unlikely that it would be the lever stop screw, since the bellcrank was previously acting as the stop and it worked. (The lever was never reaching the lever stop screw.) It sounds like it might be that the collar on the push rod for that change somehow got loosened and is now just sliding free on the rod and not activating the rod at all.
Hope this helps...my head hurts...
(If I am totally wrong, someone please warn this poor guy!)
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C Dixon
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Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 26 May 2004 5:58 pm
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I am sorry but I have read your description several times and I cannot visualize what you are saying.
But I will make this comment. Remember raises overide lowers on a P/P. So I would recommend you look at the G# to A pull first and make sure there is enough slack in the raise rod/collar to allow the G# to be lowered to an F#.
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George Duncan Sypert
From:
Colo Spgs, Co, USA
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Posted 26 May 2004 6:35 pm
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Trap, There is a possibility that when you moved the bellcrank you did not align it properly on the cross shaft before you tighened it down. Like Carl said make sure you have enough travel on the raise. The suggestion to ckeck it manually is the first place to start. Also check you vertical lever to make sure it is going back to rest position.
Hope this will help. |
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TRAP TRULY
From:
Mobile , AL
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Posted 26 May 2004 6:40 pm
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thanks guys for your help . Sorry about being unclear.Basically, my 6th string whole tone lower is not lowering to pitch. This same knee is working the c6 4th string lower also if that has anything to do with the problem.
thanks,
trap
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Craig A Davidson
From:
Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 27 May 2004 1:55 am
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Trap make sure your changer is in tune first. Also make sure that when you lower that there isn't a raise with that string also that is holding you up. Example: You need a 1/4 of an inch of play in your 10 and 9 raise to give enough play to lower them. The play is between the rod collar and bell crank.
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1985 Emmons push-pull,S-10 Marlin,Evans SE200,Hilton pedal
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Bob Snelgrove
From:
san jose, ca
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Posted 27 May 2004 5:54 am
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How can a E9 LKV be used on the C6??
bob
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 27 May 2004 6:37 am
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Bob,
Strange as it may sound, there ARE some players who have changes on levers in the E (cluster) that operate C6. I will give you one example. Herby Wallace.
In fact, he rarely leaves that cluster even when tearing up C6! I asked him one time about it and I seem to recall he told me the LKL (E9th cluster) lowered the 4th string on C6 a half a tone.
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TRAP TRULY
From:
Mobile , AL
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Posted 27 May 2004 11:16 am
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| thanks yall.Iam going to try these suggestions.I am new to this p/p. The vert on E9 all pull works good on C6 if you dont have a LNL on C6(center of neck)already.Even if you do, most guitars allow you to fold knees up to get to others. Its pretty accessible in relation to your 5th & 6th pedals. |
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