MSA Classic Plastic Body Tuning Machines

Michael Hutchison · Post by **Michael Hutchison** » 6 Mar 2015 7:31 am

Hopefully the picture says it all:

I just bought this steel, and a couple of the tuning machines are broken as you can see. I can wedge a block of wood between the shaft and the ledge for the next tuner as a temporary fix, but I'd like to replace all of them.

Can somebody direct me to either a direct replacement, or preferably, something with a metal body that won't be as likely to break in the future?

If it helps, the SN is 1C3122

Thanks for any help.

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 6 Mar 2015 8:07 am

They look like Schaller tuners.
Do a search and you should be able to locate some.
On the ZB I recently rebuilt it had Schaller tuners and they were similiar to the style on your guitar.
However, they were different enough that I had to buy them from a company in Germany.

Michael Hutchison · Post by **Michael Hutchison** » 6 Mar 2015 8:17 am

Thanks

The weird thing is that screw hole, which is at 9 o'clock when viewed from this angle. All the tuners I've ever seen have the screw hole offset at about 7 o'clock (I suppose to allow for closer spacing on an inline guitar head stock.)

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 6 Mar 2015 8:20 am

Michael,
The Schallers on my ZB had two screw holes and one was at 9 o'clock.

Michael Hutchison · Post by **Michael Hutchison** » 6 Mar 2015 8:26 am

Okay, I think maybe I found what I need?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Schaller-M6 ... 4d2bba32fa

Michael Hutchison · Post by **Michael Hutchison** » 6 Mar 2015 8:28 am

hmm, looks like these grovers might fit as well, for less moolah.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GROVER-ROTOMATI ... 27fa745a3c

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 6 Mar 2015 8:31 am

Try www.stewmac.com

Michael Hutchison · Post by **Michael Hutchison** » 20 Mar 2015 2:11 pm

For the sake of completeness, after some looking around I found these Wilkinsons

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151345176510

... for $27 per 3&3 set, and I'm happy to report that they fit in my MSA's keyheads with no modifications needed (I'd read others had to bore out the holes to 10mm on older guitars). And I have 2 spares just in case.

Thanks