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Topic: 017-020 compared to 018-022 for your B&G# |
Terry Sneed
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Arkansas,
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Posted 11 May 2004 6:57 am |
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How many of you use the 017 and 020 instead of the 018 and 022 on E9th? I've always used 018 & 022p, but if the other will give a brighter sound, then I'd prefer those, as long as string break wadn't a problem.
which do you use and why? thanks
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David Spires
From:
Millersport, OH
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Posted 11 May 2004 7:22 am
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I actually like the 18 & 22 plains because they sound bigger, a tiny bit less sharp, and feel sturdier when I play them.
I guess I don't have a problem making my guitar bright - I try to do a lot of things to warm it up. I really like the bigger string gauges.
My $0.02,
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 11 May 2004 7:24 am
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Most players use .017 and .020, if my string sales are a good indicator. The Tommy White and Doug Jernigan sets from Jagwire both use .017 and .020, as do the U-12 sets and the Jagwire Stainless Light. Those account for over 75% of my E9th sales.
Brighter? I don't know. Thinner strings sound thinner, and that seems to be what people want on the E9th.
Most people who use an .018 go to a wound string for the .022. Of all of the E9th sets that I carry, only the Jagwire Stainless Standard sets have an .022p. That's a popular set, but I have to keep plenty of .022w stainless in stock because it's a very common substitution in that set.
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 11 May 2004 8:16 am
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That is very interesting to me b0b. And you should know since you sell them.
What is really interesting is before I ever paid a twit to string gauges I just ordered sets for my Emmons P/P and they always came .018 and .022 plain.
When I became aware of gauges I assumed, "they are the experts since they designed it" and I figured all others were the same. It was not until recently I began to learn what you and others on this forum are saying.
So before I went to Stlouis last year, I ordered a set that had a .017 and a .020 plain. YIKES!! NO way for this dude. Too thin and too loose for my tastes.
But whatever floats... 
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Reggie Duncan
From:
Mississippi
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Posted 11 May 2004 11:21 am
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| .018 and .022P for me. Love the sound! |
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forrest klott
From:
Grand Rapids Mi USA
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Posted 11 May 2004 2:00 pm
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.018 and .022's as well for my taste. I like the extra "oomph" I get from them.
Skeeter |
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Jerry Hayes
From:
Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 12 May 2004 4:13 am
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For years on my old ShoBud S-12 I used the 18 and 22P and also an 11 on the 3rd string. When I got my Psuedo Emmons (BMI) around 1990 or so they didn't work or sound right so I went to the 17-20 with a 10 on the 3rd. I think a lot of it has to do with what guitar you're playing as to what gauges do a better job...Have a good 'un..JH
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 12 May 2004 6:13 am
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I think I'll try the 017 and 020 just to see how I like the sound. that's the only way I'll ever know if I like em.
I know one thing, I sure like Tommy White's sound. course Tommy could probly put winch cables on his steel and make em sound good. 
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Franklin
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Posted 12 May 2004 7:29 am
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I now use an 18 and a 20 and have for about 15 years. I have used everything mentioned above.
Here are some points to consider.
Gauges (Heavy / lighter, wound / plain)sometimes limit what can be done with the mechanical pulls a player desires.
Tone between gauges, wound or plain, are not an issue if a player can vary his touch at will. If a player doesn't use this dynamic variance they will probably be bothered by a thinner or plain string because of the amount of highs they increase to the note. When those same light strings are hit hard they produce a fatter sound. When I used an 012 for the G# I found myself having to lighten the attack to get the zing sound I was used to hearing from an 011. I went back to the 011 because it was more comfortable not having to adjust for the sound I desired.
I advise finding the gauges that fit your choice for technical comfort.
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Bill C. Buntin
From:
Cleburne TX
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Posted 12 May 2004 9:30 am
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| .018 and .022 on both my guitars. and .012 on the little G#. |
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Nicholas Dedring
From:
Beacon, New York, USA
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Posted 13 May 2004 8:58 am
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| Does a .020 plain result in less "cabinet drop" on the A&F combination? I have enough cabinet/axle/whatever flex that that note sounds really sour to me, unless I tune the open pedals up 6th string way sharp. I have a .022 on it at the moment. |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 13 May 2004 11:14 am
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Nicholas,
I don't believe it makes much difference in that case. The added stress of pulling 4 strings-2 a whole tone and 2 a half a tone- is not IMO, going to change much whether one uses the .022 or .020.
Incidently, several players I know have added a 2nd raise rod to the 5th string bellcrank on the A pedal and pulled it thru a 6th string changer raise hole. Then adjusted it to overcome the cabinet drop affect on the 6th string, when the A pedal is engaged. Works great.
You might wish to try this.
carl |
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