Newbie looking for 1st PSG

Karen Sarkisian · Post by **Karen Sarkisian** » 30 Jan 2015 9:01 am

John Booth wrote:This is the one Adam, Grab it Bro.

it'll change your life !

Adam Tracksler · Post by **Adam Tracksler** » 2 Feb 2015 2:45 pm

zowie! that went fast!

Mike Perlowin · Post by **Mike Perlowin** » 2 Feb 2015 5:04 pm

Adam Tracksler wrote:zowie! that went fast!

Did you get it? Or did somebody else beat you to the punch?

Adam Tracksler · Post by **Adam Tracksler** » 2 Feb 2015 5:05 pm

beat to the punch!

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 2 Feb 2015 6:07 pm

Every time I hear players say you gotta have 4 or 5 knee levers, I feel obligated to mention the fact that about 98% of everything Buddy Charleton ever did was done with only one lever on E9th, and one lever on C6th!

John Booth · Post by **John Booth** » 2 Feb 2015 7:05 pm

Donny Hinson wrote:Every time I hear players say you gotta have 4 or 5 knee levers, I feel obligated to mention the fact that about 98% of everything Buddy Charleton ever did was done with only one lever on E9th, and one lever on C6th!

Good point Donny, but remember, we also once drove cars that had to be started with a crank lever on the front of the car.

What amazes me is kids these days can't imagine how we got all the way thru school without Google

I guess what I'm saying is in regards to pedal steels, I welcome the innovations.

Adam: Yes, you gotta be fast and ready when those deals go up on a Stage One. Get yourself ready Buddy. Ther'll be another one in a day or two.

Mike Perlowin · Post by **Mike Perlowin** » 2 Feb 2015 7:56 pm

Adam, the used one you missed was only $100 less than a brand new one. You should contact Doug Ernest and try to work out some sort of arrangement with him.

http://www.stageonesteelguitars.com/

Joe Huggins · Post by **Joe Huggins** » 2 Feb 2015 8:07 pm

It took four months to get mine built. A long time to wait once you decide you want one.

Mike Perlowin · Post by **Mike Perlowin** » 2 Feb 2015 8:47 pm

Adam, you may be in luck.

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=278950

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 7 Feb 2015 6:57 pm

John Booth wrote: Good point Donny, but remember, we also once drove cars that had to be started with a crank lever on the front of the car...I guess what I'm saying is in regards to pedal steels, I welcome the innovations.

I welcome them too, but...I have a hard time reconciling that with the fact that a lotta steelers with years of playing experience and 4, 5, (or more) levers still don't sound nearly as good as Buddy did with one?
$:\$
I think the moral of this is that, whatever you have, you have to play it well. If your playing is pitchy or choppy with 1 or 2 levers, it's going to be just as pitchy or choppy with 5. Sure, you'll have more changes and moves available, but it won't make you a better player.

Charlie McDonald · Post by **Charlie McDonald** » 8 Feb 2015 3:58 am

Adam,

Consider: if you can get $950 or whatever the Stage One sold for and apply it to a BMI that can be customized, what can you lose?
The difference over the lifetime of the guitar would amount to small rent for one you won't have to flip.

And consider this, having heard the pros and cons:

Mike Perlowin wrote:Adam, you may be in luck.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=278950

Someone else's loss could be your gain.

So many chefs here, and anyone would love to broker you a good deal, living vicariously, like
'This is the one I'd buy but I can't,' so here's another link to a beautiful BMI,
and the seller, Damir, indicates he'd take a trade.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopi ... 93#2345393

Bill Moran · Post by **Bill Moran** » 8 Feb 2015 7:33 am

Richard Sinkler wrote: The Carter Starter and Sho-Bud's can be acceptable starter guitars as long as the owner realizes they are not pro quality

What exactly do you mean " Pro Quality " ? I would bet there are as many "Pro Quality" recordings out there with a Sho Bud as with all others combined !

John Booth · Post by **John Booth** » 8 Feb 2015 7:38 am

Bill Moran wrote:
Richard Sinkler wrote: The Carter Starter and Sho-Bud's can be acceptable starter guitars as long as the owner realizes they are not pro quality

What exactly do you mean " Pro Quality " ? I would bet there are as many "Pro Quality" recordings out there with a Sho Bud as with all others combined !

Yeah, what-choo talkin' bout dawg?

Adam Tracksler · Post by **Adam Tracksler** » 8 Feb 2015 7:54 am

I appreciate everyones help and advice, both in the thread and in PM's. I have an iron in the fire right now on an amazing PSG. I'll probably end up starting a new thread on it....

My incredible wife has helped instill the "buy the good one once, not the cheap one three times" way of thinking into me, passed down from her amazing step-father, so hopefully my PSG will be one that carries me for a while.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 8 Feb 2015 12:14 pm

Pro quality would be a guitar that the knee levers/stops don't bend. There are many other things that are brought up here all the time when this subject comes up. Pro quality doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the sound. As a first time buyer/ beginner, I would be less worried about the guitar sounding like what I hear from the masters, as I would the playability. Some posts in this very thread refer to pro quality guitars, and saving up a little extra so one can afford one.

And, I should have been a little more specific about the Sho~Bud. We were talking about a Maverick here.

Michael Mathieson · Post by **Michael Mathieson** » 9 Feb 2015 10:51 am

I finally got tired of trying to set up the used "Emmons" that I bought. I is difficult to get it to stay in tune, and the pedal/knee lever set up isn't correct. After reading a lot of posts on this forum I called Doug from Stage One who was incredibly helpful and ordered a new guitar from him. He figures I should be able to have it in late March. I am also going to order some of the Jeff Newman CD's that you recommended. I already have the Winnie Winston Book. Until I get my new guitar, I figure I can at least practice some of the mechanics(scales etc) on my slightly out of tune Emmons. I appreciate all the input from the experts. thanks again, Mike

Jeff Triplett · Post by **Jeff Triplett** » 12 Feb 2015 7:02 pm

Adam,

I agree with some of the other comments about the Stage One, if you could save a little bit more you would not be sorry. You get allot of guitar for entry level pricing that plays and sounds great. While it is a fixed copedent it comes with 3 pedals/4 knees and would serve you well for a long time. I just took delivery of one this week and I am very pleased with it.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 12 Feb 2015 8:09 pm

I think he said he already ordered a Stage One. Good move!

Adam Tracksler · Post by **Adam Tracksler** » 13 Feb 2015 5:58 am

Didn't get a stage one. Got something else. Should be here on Tuesday

Mike Perlowin · Post by **Mike Perlowin** » 13 Feb 2015 7:45 am

What did you get? Be sure to post pictures.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 13 Feb 2015 8:11 am

Adam Tracksler wrote:Didn't get a stage one. Got something else. Should be here on Tuesday

OOPS! My bad. I was referring to Michael's post. Didn't double check who the OP was. Sorry. We're anxious to see what you got.

Adam Tracksler · Post by **Adam Tracksler** » 17 Feb 2015 10:43 am

I got an amazing D10 Fessenden.... New thread will most likely be forthcoming with pictures, etc.

Couldn't be happier, the SGF Family helped me out to no end.

Jerry Hedge · Post by **Jerry Hedge** » 18 Feb 2015 8:00 pm

Congrats!!! Fessenden is a great guitar.

John Booth · Post by **John Booth** » 19 Feb 2015 4:26 am

Oh yeah, That's a great guitar and you can grow for years on it.
Jerry Fessenden makes a great guitar.

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 19 Feb 2015 5:50 am

That's called coming in at the top.