my LKR knee lever raises the first string a half

Terry Sneed · From: Arkansas,

tone. it also lowers the 6th string a half.
I use the raise quite a bit, but don't use the 6 string lower much, since I can get the same thing by lettin off the A pedal half way. what would be a good note to raise or lower that G# to? any suggestions?

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TW Sneed

Bobby Boggs · From: Upstate SC.

Terry most folks lower the 6th to F#.Then with the B pedal pull it to G.This is know as split tuning.You can get a 1000 licks with those changes alone.

I don't understand this: You wrote:

Terry Sneed · From: Arkansas,

"but don't use the 6 string lower much, since I can get the same thing by lettin off the A pedal half way."

Sorry Bobby. I'm confused(not unusual)by lettin off the A pedal half way I get an augmented.
my G#-6th string lowers to an F#(i think) like you said. when I'm in say, C 8th fret, and I lower my G# then add the B pedal it gives me a C. what would be the chord just lowering the G#, before addin the B pedal? C minor?
I can make a bunch of chords, but some I don't even know what they are. I've got my Mel Bay chord chart out, and I'm tryin to learn most of my chords again. I used to know all of em, but not anymore.
you said you can get a bunch of uses out of that G# that lowers to F# and the B pedal.
can you tell me some of em? the only chord I know usin that G# addin the B pedal is the major chords. a C when in C, an F when in F etc plus the minor or whatever that is by just lowerin the G# alone. thanks for your help.

[This message was edited by Terry Sneed on 29 March 2004 at 01:38 PM.]

C Dixon · From: Duluth, GA USA

I would, as BB says, suggest you lower the 6th string a whole tone and split it with the B pedal. Buddy Emmons came up with 70's this change in the early. And it is really a good change, especially with the split feature. This is standard now on most new steels being shipped.

carl

Terry Sneed · From: Arkansas,

Carl, question, when I lower my G# and add the B pedal I get a C on 8th fret.
G on 3rd fret etc. is this what your talkin about? if it is, I guess I just don't know about all the uses Bobby was talkin about.
can you help me out here? I mean I can get the same exact C chord by hittin strings 4,5,6 open on 8th fret, as I can by lowering the G# and addin the B pedal on same fret same strings. I must not have the change your talkin about.

Terry

[This message was edited by Terry Sneed on 29 March 2004 at 04:54 PM.]

C Dixon · From: Duluth, GA USA

Terry,

When you lower the 6th string a whole tone and add the B pedal you get an Eb at the 8th fret, NOT a C as you stated. Now this alone produces a C minor chord. Or a G minor at the 3rd fret, etc.

But if you add the A pedal to this split you get an F7th chord. And this alone is very very useful in music. because moving up two frets gives you the dom7 chord from any I chord. This is like found gold.

True we can get this chord at other places, but they require different string grips and some of the places are 7 frets away.

Another great thing. The B and C pedals (strings 4, 5 and 6) gives you the 3rd inversion of the minor chords. The first inversion is the A pedal; the 2nd inversion is the E lever (lowering the E's).

The only problem with B and C is you have to come off your A and B and move over to B and C to get it. While this is ok sometimes there are times this breaks the sustain.

Splitting the whole tone lower on the 6th string with the B pedal gives you this third inversion of the minor chord without having to change your foot position over A and B. And this is a big blessing.

carl

Terry Sneed · From: Arkansas,

Ok thanks a lot Carl. I got ya now. I'm gonna lower my G# a whole tone tomorrow.

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