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Topic: LDG question |
Jason Duguay
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Massachusetts, USA
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mike nolan
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Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 21 Nov 2014 4:13 pm |
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As far as I know the original '73 guitars were all barrels behind 2 hole pullers. I have owned 3 of them.... still have one. I believe that Ricky Davis has the first production LDG, right after LLoyd's original prototype, and it is barrels and 2 hole pullers.
There are no pictures of the changer endplate on the guitar in the auction.... so it is very likely that it is a conversion from a D-10 Professional. |
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Skip Edwards
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LA,CA
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Posted 21 Nov 2014 5:12 pm
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Wow... that certainly is an odd one.
But, then again, Sho-Bud made lots of odd ones over the years. |
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Ricky Davis
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Bertram, Texas USA
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Tommy Everette
From:
Whitakers, NC
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Posted 24 Nov 2014 8:11 pm
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The seller and I agreed to cancel the transaction.
Very honest guy I must say.
Last edited by Tommy Everette on 25 Nov 2014 8:42 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Jason Duguay
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Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 24 Nov 2014 8:58 pm
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look at the endplates, they definitely were not made for a Sho-Bud, It looks like it fits kinda awkwardly actually. May not be a big deal..could be the angle of the photo..might end up playing great, it is real pretty..
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Brint Hannay
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Posted 24 Nov 2014 9:13 pm
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| mike nolan wrote: |
| There are no pictures of the changer endplate on the guitar in the auction.... so it is very likely that it is a conversion from a D-10 Professional. |
The mismatch of the cutout in the changer endplate and the changer itself (empty space where the return spring adjustment screws would normally be)--along with the general impression that the earliest LDG's had two-hole pullers--suggests a conversion of some kind. No visible holes in the back neck area of the underside mean if it was a conversion from a D-10 the underside was oversprayed to cover the holes.
My non-expert guess is a conversion (at the factory?) from a D-10 Professional, involving replacement of the changer endplate with an LDG endplate to get rid of the empty C6 changer hole even though the LDG cutout didn't match, plus overspray of the underside and quite possibly a refinish (even Lloyd's isn't that bright green) and decal change.
Even so, it looks like a genuine Sho-Bud round front body and genuine Sho-Bud parts, so Tommy, I wouldn't consider you got scammed. |
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Tom Gorr
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Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 24 Nov 2014 9:17 pm
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I agree, the changer side endplate seems to countour the way my 74 does, but the endplate cutaway looks sized for a different changer, maybe a late 74 to 75 (early 'the pro 2'). .The keyhead side endplate looks like it may be home made. The screws don't seem to be in same place as I recall them,.. hard to tell, the keyhead end photo"s miss the details.
The endplate condition points to the possibility the cabinet is a major refurb or not original. The underside coating may be obscuring holes if this was once a D10 and converted, but assuming there all no holes, then this is possibly a non original cabinet, as nice as it is though.
Probably possible to get some original endplates to bring things around.
Wait...
Looking at it the other way around...maybe this has been a conversion from an 80's ldg, and refitted with the rack and barrel 1u 1d changer to get back tone.
If the keyhead endplate is indeed a home made job, my guess is the guitar had a major accident, and I go back to theory A..
Last edited by Tom Gorr on 24 Nov 2014 9:38 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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mike nolan
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Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 24 Nov 2014 9:23 pm
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| There is a whole lot of oddball there, and most likely not a factory LDG The seller has a return policy, so Tommy, you should post a bunch of pictures when you get it and see what Forum experts think. If it isn't a real LDG, and/or doesn't play well you might want to do a refund. |
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Brint Hannay
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Maryland, USA
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Posted 24 Nov 2014 9:34 pm
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Again, I'm not an expert, but come to think of it I don't recall seeing tiger-stripe maple Sho-Bud bodies, birdseye being the norm. If it isn't an original Sho-Bud body, it does look like a pretty good job to me.
I'll butt out now and defer to more experienced hands. |
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Tom Gorr
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Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 24 Nov 2014 9:40 pm
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| That thought crossed my mind too...balance of probabilities that this is a mismatched parts bud. |
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Clyde Lane
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Glasgow, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 25 Nov 2014 6:27 am
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I don't think those are Sho-Bud end plates, there are no screw heads showing. I think only Super Pros are the only ones that didn't have the screw heads exposed.
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Tommy Everette
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Whitakers, NC
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Posted 25 Nov 2014 6:52 am
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End plates are Baggett. Seller was very clear on the fact it had been modded.
He was very upfront about that.
It is available for sale.
Seller and I cancelled the transaction. |
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Tommy Everette
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Whitakers, NC
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Posted 25 Nov 2014 6:52 am
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End plates are Baggett. Seller was very clear on the fact it had been modded.
He was very upfront about that.
It is available for sale.
Seller and I cancelled the transaction. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 25 Nov 2014 8:00 am
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A Rack and Barrel Bud isn't a collector's item.
Baggett endplates would prompt me to reduce an offer a bit; but that guitar is, in my opinion (I'm no Ricky Davis, just a trucker with some opinions), worth just a bit less than the price shown on eBay. If I wanted an SD-10, I'd grab it in a heartbeat as long as the window in the right endplate is in the right place.
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 2 Feb 2015 11:34 pm Mike Nolan check you PMs please
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Heh, Mike,
Would you check you Private Messages, please. I ave a question for you. Thanks, stevet |
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 4 Feb 2015 8:15 pm
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sorry for the ignorance, but what does 'Baggett' mean?
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 9 Feb 2015 8:15 am
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Baggett was another maker of pedal steel guitars.
Think of it as dropping a Chevy engine in a Datsun.
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