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Topic: Problem with my Sho-Bud LDG |
Sigi Meissner
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Duebendorf, Switzerland
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Posted 21 Feb 2004 1:48 am |
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By reading the thread of Therry Reed I start to realize why I got a problem to set up my LDG, 1982: The new change I have installed (G# lowers to F#) works perfectly
on my Mullen and also on my Emmons Legrande II. But it doesn't on the Sho-Bud: After passing a half tone the raiser finger starts to move along a bit. This causes the effect that before reaching the F# fully, the tone starts to raise while im still pushing the lever. Same when I push with a screwdriver at the endplate the lower finger.
What can I do?
Does anybody know where the difference between all push and push pull is explained?
Thanks for your help
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 21 Feb 2004 9:21 am
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Sigi,
I assume you have this G# to F# change on your 6th string. I have had this change for years on a LDG Sho~Bud. However, you need to use a plain string, not a wound. There isn't enough travel in the changer to accomodate a wound string.
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Jim Smith
From:
Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 21 Feb 2004 9:36 am
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| Also, if your 6th string has a raise helper spring, remove it. That will allow the string to lower. |
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Joerg Hennig
From:
Bavaria, Germany
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Posted 21 Feb 2004 10:09 am
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All push  Did anybody ever build one?
In addition to what Erv said, problems such as yours are often caused by the raise helper springs (the ones closest to the bottom of the guitar). Try to take out the one for the 6th string and see if that helps.
(Sorry Jim, you posted this already while I was still writing)
Also, if you intend to do such a change, the tension of the lower return springs (the upper ones when the guitar is turned upside down) should never be too high, just enough to get the lower back to pitch. Of course this was easier on the older ShoBuds that had adjustable springs. Yours, being a 1982, probably has fixed springs and all you can do is either stretch it (never tried that myself) or replace it with a new spring with more windings.
Besides all that, I´ve found that certain ShoBuds do have an inherent difficulty accepting whole-step lowers, must be the radius of the changer fingers or something like that. If everything fails, you just might consider putting a whole step raise on string 7 instead, that will let you play most everything you can do with the lower on 6 and the guitar will most probably do it with no problems, also is somehow more elegant when combined with a raise on the 1st string on the same lever.
Good luck, Joe H.
[This message was edited by Joe Henry on 21 February 2004 at 10:15 AM.] |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 21 Feb 2004 11:54 pm
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Also you might look at the finger from underneath. Because right around that time was a transition of Fingers....and you may have the one that the raise portion sits in a slot in a plate that the lower springs run over as your lowering....and if the fingers you have; have a little piece of metal at the bottom on the raise finger that sticks out past that bottom plate....>than the lower finger spring might be catching that as the finger is pulled to lower and it slides along that bottom plate and hits that piece of metal from the raise section; and starts to raise the finger.
You can fix this by either stretching out the hooked part of the lower spring so that it reaches out to hook onto the lower finger and then there is plenty of room for the coils of the springs to move before it his that piece of metal.
Or you can take that finger out and change it with one that doesn't have a piece of metal stickin' up; or you can file that piece of metal down so it's clear of the spring to move.
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