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Topic: Pedal springs on Emmons p/p? |
David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 10 Feb 2004 9:51 am |
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| In attempting to get my pedal action smoother, I noticed that the pedal springs were holding the pedals up above the point they would otherwise fall to when the pedals are not in use. So maybe a quarter of the A, B, and C pedal travel was before any changer finger was engaged and any string movement occurred. I could not figure any way to adjust this play out of the pedals. So I just unhooked those springs and let the pedals fall where they may. Now the action is smoother and softer, and I don't notice any problems removing the springs has caused. Am I missing something? What the heck are those springs for? I suspect those springs might be useful if there were both raises and lowers involved. But there are only raises on my A,B and C pedals, so does that mean the springs are not needed? |
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 10 Feb 2004 11:09 am
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If you're playing on stage and your left foot accidentally goes under a pedal, there is a chance that the pedal rod will drop out. I found that out the hard way.
R B |
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John Davis
From:
Cambridge, U.K.
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Posted 10 Feb 2004 12:55 pm
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I would find a half pedal difficult to find without the resistance of the springs, but I guess you can get used to hang`in if`n you hang long enough?
E-mail Tommy Cass he knows all about the p/p mech. |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 10 Feb 2004 6:18 pm
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Some PSG manufacturers do not use crossrod springs and some do. I believe most do. Their purpose is to counteract the weight of the pedal and pedal rod. This is why they are rarely, if ever, used on knee lever crossrods.
In addition some feel (I do) that it allows us to rest our feet ever so lightly on the pedals in a non engaged state, without accidently engaging them slightly.
carl |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 11 Feb 2004 4:47 am
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The advantages far outweigh the disadvantages. I have removed them for years on every PP I have owned or worked on.
Larry Behm |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 11 Feb 2004 7:51 am
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| I'm getting the picture. I think if there was an adjustment so you could make this pedal play as long or short as you want, I could live with a very short amount of play, for the reason Carl points out. But my pedals have way too much play before they start pulling a string. Also, it's a 12-string with at least 3 pulls on each pedal, so I don't need the added stiffness caused by these springs. I'm better off without them. |
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Brad Sarno
From:
St. Louis, MO USA
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Posted 11 Feb 2004 6:37 pm
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I stretched those springs to make their effect weaker. They help when putting the guitar together so the pedal rod stays hooked. They also help keep them hooked should you kick them sideways when playing. When they're too strong, the pedals firmly rise all the way up and make a click. If you stretch them out a bit then they still serve their purpose but you won't feel or hear them as much. I've kind of gotten used to feeling some of that play. It lets me tap my foot on the pedals without engaging any pulls (or pushes).
Brad Sarno |
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