Mullen Royal Precision with adjustable raise helper springs?

Bob Kagy · Post by **Bob Kagy** » 27 Aug 2014 2:11 pm

Looking for anyone who knows for sure whether the Mullen Royal Precision steels have adjustable raise springs.
I've looked on the website - no sign that they do. I've called Mullen but they're at the St. Louis convention. Shot an email to them, but in the meantime I've got an opportunity to do a deal on one in which the dealer is saying that Yes, some RP's do have adjustable raise helper springs.
I'd appreciate any clarification that anyone can offer, especially someone who can confirm that Yes, some RP's Do have them.
Thanks for any replies,
bk

mtulbert · Post by **mtulbert** » 27 Aug 2014 2:15 pm

Check with Mickey Adams. If anyone would know it would be him.

Mickey Adams · Post by **Mickey Adams** » 27 Aug 2014 3:47 pm

They do not come with raise helpers from the factory that I know of. It was introduced on the G2 model..However, thats not to say that there are not any modified ones out there. I have not seen single a mullen guitar that "needed" them, as the action in all their models is very manageable...

Bob Kagy · Post by **Bob Kagy** » 27 Aug 2014 4:23 pm

Thanks Mickey,that's helpful. My situation is that I'm no longer a spring chicken, having arthritic joints, etc. and need a nice smooth easy action. It may be that the RP has good enough action so that I wouldn't need to fight it.
Thanks again, bk

Peter Nylund · Post by **Peter Nylund** » 27 Aug 2014 8:29 pm

All the Royal Precisions that I've seen has had raise helper springs. I'm not sure about the adjustability thou.

Bob Kagy · Post by **Bob Kagy** » 28 Aug 2014 5:04 am

Peter,
That's interesting. It may explain the disconnect I'm experiencing with a dealer saying it does have raise helper springs, but not being able to find anything on the website that addresses adjustments, or seeing anything in the photos that shows an way to adjust them.
Thanks,
bk

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 28 Aug 2014 5:25 am

Most helpers are not adjustable. Zum and JCH are

Tommy White · Post by **Tommy White** » 28 Aug 2014 7:11 am

Bob Kagy · Post by **Bob Kagy** » 28 Aug 2014 8:03 am

Tommy, where are the adjustments on your RP? Maybe in the undercarriage?
bk

Tommy White · Post by **Tommy White** » 30 Aug 2014 6:08 am

After another look see, they are not adjustable.

Bob Kagy · Post by **Bob Kagy** » 30 Aug 2014 7:27 am

Tommy, many thanks for dropping in; have always loved your playing. Your comments were helpful and appreciated.
Micky, thank you for dropping in and offering your help; your playing is pretty awesome.
While I'm at it, Lane Gray you're a great guy to have on the forum; you always have constructive, helpful info to offer.
This thread can be closed. I've been given what was needed.
Thanks all for your comments.
bk

Peter Nylund · Post by **Peter Nylund** » 30 Aug 2014 7:37 am

As far as I know, only the lower return springs are adjustable

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 30 Aug 2014 7:50 am

In the picture on this listing, it looks like the helper springs ( between the deck and the pullrods) do not adjust, but hook up to a bar.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=267337

Tommy White · Post by **Tommy White** » 30 Aug 2014 8:44 am

I stand corrected! They are not adjustable. Sorry for the confusion fellas.

Peter Nylund · Post by **Peter Nylund** » 30 Aug 2014 10:14 am

Tommy White wrote:My Mullen Royal Precision and both of my Mullen G2 guitars have adjustable raise helper springs.

Maybe it's for the pro's only

In the picture from the Mullen website I can see no screws

Bob Kagy · Post by **Bob Kagy** » 30 Aug 2014 10:29 am

Speculation until settled - maybe tiny screws recessed in the hoods just above where the springs connect to the raise fingers?
bk

Tommy White · Post by **Tommy White** » 30 Aug 2014 12:45 pm

Peter, thank you for posting that pic. Could be Mullen guitar company has changed to the adjustable springs with screws since that photo was posted. I can't imagine my guitars would be any different than a stock model. The mystery continues!

Ian Rae · Post by **Ian Rae** » 2 Sep 2014 12:27 am

Strikes me that at the bar end, you could swap the springs for the type that accepts a screw; if someone's done this at some point it might explain the confusion.

But like Tommy says, tough to get at once it's all rodded up.

Mike Mantey · Post by **Mike Mantey** » 2 Sep 2014 7:09 am

The Royal and G2 both have helpers springs. Neither are adjustable. We calculated the optimum pulling pressure when we decided on the spring.

Again have them but do not adjust!!!!

Bob Kagy · Post by **Bob Kagy** » 2 Sep 2014 7:39 am

Thanks Mike. I'm glad this is settled.
bk

Ian Rae · Post by **Ian Rae** » 4 Sep 2014 8:34 am

I'm building a guitar with helpers. Making them fully adjustable is too difficult, but I want to go one better than having them all hooked to one bar. I calculate that the best tension for each spring varies between 4 and 8 pounds, so I've made a plate with holes at one-pound intervals (the springs are rated 4.52 lb/in so a pound is 0.22").

The pins are fitted where I think they should go. It's possible that they might be movable once the plate is installed - certainly no harder than getting a screwdriver in there.