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Topic: What does this blue tuning knob do? |
Robert Rhea
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Panama City, Florida, USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2014 4:10 pm |
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Just wondering about split tuning a Carter SD-10. I purchased this one from Jeremy Marcum on this forum. Does my guitar have it, and is that what the blue knob does? I've noticed I can tune the 6th string open, and also with the "B" pedal down. I can also tune the RKL to lower the 6th string a whole step. But after all 3 are in tune, when I use both the pedal and the RKL, it's badly out of tune. Is that knob for tuning a split, or something else? Thanks in advance for your help.
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Jon Light (deceased)
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Saugerties, NY
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Posted 19 Aug 2014 4:20 pm
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1) Tune the open strings.
2) Tune the G#>A raise.
3) Engage the B pedal AND the 6th string lower lever and tune the G with the nylon nut that lowers the string.
4) With just the lower lever engaged, tune the F# with the blue nylon nut. |
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Robert Rhea
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Panama City, Florida, USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2014 4:31 pm
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| Thanks Jon! All in tune now. Sweet! |
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Jon Light (deceased)
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Saugerties, NY
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Posted 19 Aug 2014 4:37 pm
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| Excellent! |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 19 Aug 2014 8:46 pm
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Just wondering, is there any advantage or disadvantage to using Carter's 4 raise changer for splits instead of dedicated split screws?
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Jim Smith
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Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2014 9:14 pm
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| Mike Perlowin wrote: |
| Just wondering, is there any advantage or disadvantage to using Carter's 4 raise changer for splits instead of dedicated split screws? |
For one thing, you can have different split lowers on the same string. For example, you can lower 5&10 to A# with one lever and to A on another, and still tune the split to C for B-C# and B-A#. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 19 Aug 2014 10:05 pm
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I think the reason they use the extra rod method is because of the angle of the piece behind the changer. It would be hard to put the screws in there.
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 3:02 am
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Thanks guys. BTW, MSAs have a 4 raise changer and split screws. That's more than I need. Maybe somebody else will find a use for all that.
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Robert Rhea
From:
Panama City, Florida, USA
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 8:51 am
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| Speaking of adding pulls, or maybe you weren't, I want to add a couple of pulls. I have 2 pull rods, but they are longer than what I need...maybe for left leg levers, and I want to add pulls to right leg levers. What's the best way to create the bend in the rod where it goes around the round piece that hold it in place? Cutting it shorter is no big deal, but making the right bend critical, I think. So somehow using the piece that you are attaching it to, or using something with the same diameter to bend the rod around would help to make the proper bend. Any thoughts? |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 11:43 am
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It's a lot easier to cut the rod and thread the end.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting. |
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Robert Rhea
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Panama City, Florida, USA
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 3:09 pm
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Good idea Richard. Too late on one of the rods, I've already cut the bend end off. But for the other rod, I'll take one of the rods off to use as a guide for how long to cut it, and take it to my office. I don't have a tap and die set at home.
Just looked on-line and for $52, I can get a Craftsman set at Sears! |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 20 Aug 2014 3:40 pm
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You can buy just the die you need. It's a 4-40 thread. You will need a handle too.
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Philip Mitrakos
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The Beach South East Florida
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Posted 21 Aug 2014 6:24 pm
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Here's what I use home made bender
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Will Cowell
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Cambridgeshire, UK
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Posted 22 Aug 2014 4:50 am
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"Farmer" did a nice bending jig on the Steel Guitar Builders' forum - made out of a couple of pieces of angle iron and a bending bar made I think from bright mild steel. Used for putting the bends on the ends of the pedal rods, no reason why you couldn't use it to put right angle bends on pullrods for a Williams, for example.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 22 Aug 2014 8:42 am
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It's so easy to just cut the rod and thread it. Seems like a lot of work to build a bending jig for a one time use. These pliers/cutters (old an not real sharp) cut through the 3/32" stainless rod I bought with just a little hard squeezing of them. Cutting the threads was even easier. Although, I made new rods with no bends and used the brass barrels with screws that Carter uses for the intermediate shaft they use on knee levers, instead of the regular pull pins (dog bones). I cut and threaded 6 rods in about 30 minutes.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 22 Aug 2014 8:45 am
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| Will Cowell wrote: |
| "Farmer" did a nice bending jig on the Steel Guitar Builders' forum - made out of a couple of pieces of angle iron and a bending bar made I think from bright mild steel. Used for putting the bends on the ends of the pedal rods, no reason why you couldn't use it to put right angle bends on pullrods for a Williams, for example. |
I rebuilt a Super-Pro undercarriage once, and replaced all the rods. Again, using stainless welding rod. The threads, again, were not difficult to do. For the right angle bend, I just put the rod in a vise, and bent it to 90 degrees using a hammer at the end to give it more of a sharp 90 degree bend.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting. |
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