resale value on promat guitars.

Richard Plummer · Post by **Richard Plummer** » 17 Jul 2014 2:59 am

Dont know much about these guitars,though have heard raves about the guitars.Are these guitars that sell as far as resell?Also do they sell well enough that one wouldnt have to sit on one for a length of time waiting for a buyer?Again just found out about the brand via word of mouth.Who would be the authorized person to contact here in tennessee for sales?

Will Cowell · Post by **Will Cowell** » 17 Jul 2014 4:13 am

Damir Besic is the only guy I've ever heard of dealing with this brand.

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 17 Jul 2014 4:22 am

FWIW, this one has been on the market for about 2 months.

Edward Rhea · Post by **Edward Rhea** » 17 Jul 2014 5:07 am

www.steelguitarsonline.com
Here's a site that Damir is associated with. He has Tennessee as a residence on his profile. I've only seen a handful of these PROMAT"s "For Sale", over the last year, on the forum...they do get positive reviews and are making a push-pull.
As for resale?...that's tough...not seen that many used ones being re-sold at this time.

Richard Plummer · Post by **Richard Plummer** » 17 Jul 2014 5:19 am

heres why I am asking also.A person on my facebook friends list says he is a sales rep for them.He says he lives in pa but his profile says North carolina.He says $500 for a deposit and the single necks are $2700 dollars.He says they are built in pa though the company profile says in europe.

mike nolan · Post by **mike nolan** » 17 Jul 2014 5:53 am

From the Promat Steel Guitars website:

What We Do

We are small family owned pedal steel guitar work shop in City Of Novi Sad in Europe, dedicated to manufacturing pedal steel guitars of highest quality. Father and son operation located in the heart of Europe. All of our instruments are hand made and also custom made to fit the player. We use only the best materials to build our instruments. We are very proud of our pedal steel guitars and the tone they have. The only real push-pull mechanism based pedal steel guitar you can order new in the world today.

Thank you for your interest in our instruments.

Dusan & Slobodan Papic

So your "friend" has some bad information......

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 17 Jul 2014 5:55 am

Uh oh. This story has familiar red flags all over it.Caveat emptor!! If I were you, I'd write directly to Mr. Papic and ask him if he has any authorized sales agent in PA. If he says no, then there's your answer.

Be aware that there is a well known scam artist working the steel guitar community out of Pennsylvania who has been banned from the forum and operates through Facebook. You would want to satisfy yourself that this is not him before going any further.

Howard Parker · Post by **Howard Parker** » 17 Jul 2014 5:59 am

If this is your "friend" in Greensburg I would delete him and run away..very, very fast!

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Dave Diehl · Post by **Dave Diehl** » 17 Jul 2014 6:00 am

These guitars are made in Europe. I have had one for about five years now and it is without a doubt an excellent built instrument and plays with the ease of an Emmons Push Pull. I can't speak for the saleability question or the validity of the person saying they are built in PA.

Richard Plummer · Post by **Richard Plummer** » 17 Jul 2014 6:23 am

his facebook id name is Ron !

Howard Parker · Post by **Howard Parker** » 17 Jul 2014 6:25 am

Please do yourself a favor and use the search function above on that name.

Then delete your "friend" and don't look back.

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Tony Glassman · Post by **Tony Glassman** » 17 Jul 2014 6:28 am

uh-oh! $:\$

Richard Plummer · Post by **Richard Plummer** » 17 Jul 2014 6:42 am

real quick,whether it was him or someone that hijacked his facebook profile,he asked for $500 dollar deposit and that there were 3 guitars in front of me waiting to be built.He said we would do a contract signed that would be done by snail mail.He claimed he lived in europe till about 10 or 12 years ago.I up to this point was wondering if they had a rep here in the states and somewhere close to have it built. This would have eliminated the unbelievably high shipping from Europe.I dont give up money easily and $500 is to much to lose if this is a scam.

Jim Cohen · Post by **Jim Cohen** » 17 Jul 2014 7:31 am

You're in Nashville. Go talk with Damir Besic. He's the guy in the States who knows best about Promat steels. He'll set you straight about it all.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 17 Jul 2014 8:12 am

Definitely talk to Damir. I believe he is the only one here in the states representing Promat. I could be wrong on that though.

The first thing I thought when reading your post, was SCAM!!!

There aren't many Promats here in the states (compared to any other brand), so I would be skeptical of any for sale, unless it was offered here by another forum member.

Kevin Hatton · Post by **Kevin Hatton** » 17 Jul 2014 8:18 am

Contact Damir Besic here on the Forum. He is a rep.

Jos Roderkerken · Post by **Jos Roderkerken** » 17 Jul 2014 12:19 pm

Hmm. Ron ! has contacted me several times but i have never heard him talk about promat.. only a steel guitar he calls bentley?
I posted that i wanted a new psg and that is what he told me.
As far as i know damir is the one working with promat...

Storm Rosson · Post by **Storm Rosson** » 17 Jul 2014 1:05 pm

That guy, Ron !, is a known douchebag and phisherman who has been discussed on this forum before. Take Howard's advice ,delete his name and forget him...oh yeah then talk to Damir...

Damir Besic · Post by **Damir Besic** » 17 Jul 2014 1:13 pm

as far as I know Ron makes "Bentley" steel guitars... "Promat" is made in Europe, in Novi Sad by Mr. Papic, and has no official reps anywhere, every guitar if ordered new, has to be ordered directly from the company web site... as far as quality goes, it is by far one of the best guitars I have ever owned, as a resell value, I guess it would depend on the market, and how much seller is willing to pay for the guitar, however, they are not cheap..there is a few very good deals on the forum right now, I really don't want to get involved in this, so I gave a few facts just to clear up the confusion little bit...

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chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 17 Jul 2014 1:14 pm

how does steenjerk continually get away with this crap?
shouldn't he be in jail or something?

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 17 Jul 2014 2:19 pm

Richard Plummer wrote:heres why I am asking also.A person on my facebook friends list says he is a sales rep for them.He says he lives in pa but his profile says North carolina.He says $500 for a deposit and the single necks are $2700 dollars.He says they are built in pa though the company profile says in europe.

Just curious...why would anyone believe anything they read on facebook???

Archie Nicol · Post by **Archie Nicol** » 17 Jul 2014 3:41 pm

From Ron on FB...

`STEELGUITARFORUM:
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What is wrong with you people these days? Can't you read anymore or am I using University style grammar?
Yet again, everybody and their brother is jumping on the wagon pointing fingers at me saying I build Promat guitars.
Let me say it once and for all in terms ya'll understand.
"I build Bentley steel guitars"
I want nothing to do with the steel guitar forum but I guarantee you that if this crap does not stop I will contact my lawyer and sue the forum for defamation and spreading falsified information. For all of you that are reading this, you might want to forward this reply to Bobby Lee because my email to him bounced back to me.
This shit better stops because I WILL do what I just mentioned..........I will sue.
I build BENTLEY steel guitars damned........NOT Promat guitars.`

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Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 17 Jul 2014 4:29 pm

Why are there a few Forum members out there who blame Ron ! for everything ?

Nobody ever even suggested that he builds Promat guitars, so why bring him into it ?

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 17 Jul 2014 4:29 pm

Promats are Serbian, not Pennsylvanian.
And. $500 is lower than the Promat deposit.
I'm thinking there's a scam.
I've seen one Promat. It's a damn good likeness of a push-pull. I'd happily buy one if I had the bucks.

Archie Nicol · Post by **Archie Nicol** » 17 Jul 2014 4:43 pm

Methinks he doth protest too much. Why the litigious comments?

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