Organ Sound ELECTRO-HARMONIX B9 ORGAN MACHINE

Don Mogle · Post by **Don Mogle** » 27 Jun 2014 2:43 pm

Len,

Any chance of posting a video with the B9 with your steel? I'd love to hear it and am very sure others would also! Thanks.

Don

Len Amaral · Post by **Len Amaral** » 27 Jun 2014 3:18 pm

I'll see if I can do a youtube video. The sound will be from the mic in the camera so it is what it is.

Scott Duckworth · Post by **Scott Duckworth** » 27 Jun 2014 6:20 pm

It would be easy to take a second volume pedal and substitute the proper match pot for the mod control in the B pedal... after the warranty goes out of course!

Nathan Guilford · Post by **Nathan Guilford** » 28 Jun 2014 6:32 am

Scott Duckworth wrote:It would be easy to take a second volume pedal and substitute the proper match pot for the mod control in the B pedal... after the warranty goes out of course!

good point. that'd be a nice addition. I emailed Electroharmonix about the lack of ramp and they did say that if you turn the mod knob all the way down that then you could run the B9 pedal into any other mod effect. So you could still have your old leslie effect ramp from another pedal.

Len Amaral · Post by **Len Amaral** » 28 Jun 2014 12:18 pm

OK....I did a short demo with my U-12 on the B9 Organ Machine. I used one setting (Fat & Full) and I explain how I set it up for my rig. I think the type of guitar and pickup you use makes no difference as you are using the guitar for a trigger.

I imagine the type of amp and speaker you use will make a difference so some of the other presets may work better for your use. The question of the mod control operating the simulated rotation of the speaker could be adjusted if the effect were mounted near you for a quick spin either way and I may mount it on the leg later.

Lenny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfnECGs ... e=youtu.be

Michael Butler · Post by **Michael Butler** » 28 Jun 2014 12:28 pm

cool demo lenny!!

play music!

Don Mogle · Post by **Don Mogle** » 28 Jun 2014 2:17 pm

Hey Lenny,

Thanks. It sounds real good to me. I wonder what the Strymon Lex leslie simulator would do for it?

Don

Gary Reed · Post by **Gary Reed** » 28 Jun 2014 3:08 pm

That's a must have for me Lenny, Thanks!

Len Amaral · Post by **Len Amaral** » 28 Jun 2014 3:53 pm

What makes a big difference, and I didn't do it on the demo was to add a lush reverb. I have only had the B9 a few days and dialed in a usable sound. I had the HK Rotospere, The MIDI steel driver with the pickup and a Roland Hex pickup under the middle strings hooked up with a synth all with mixed results. All the items I just mentioned were rack mounts and cumbersome. For a small plug and play unit and the few times I would use it in a song, th B9 is realistic, portable and does not change your sound when off. My 2 cents.

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 29 Jun 2014 6:19 am

I think the problem here is that we're confusing the two different units. The B9 is an "organ" machine, not a Leslie sim. If you want both effects chances are, you'll need two separate units.

admin · Post by **b0b** » 29 Jun 2014 8:16 am

If you have the organ tone, you can simulate the Leslie sound with left hand vibrato, including ramp up/down.

Len Amaral · Post by **Len Amaral** » 29 Jun 2014 12:03 pm

Erv, you are correct about organ tone and Leslie simulators being two different issues and I did not mean to confuse them both. As I mentioned, I have tried a number of rotation sims but have never tried to cascade one into another.

bOb, you are correct as I started using a more agressive vibrato and you are able to simulate a ramp up & down.

I had a friend drop by that is getting married and I played "Here comes the bride"
with the Cathederal setting and we all had a good laugh.

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 30 Jun 2014 7:47 am

Len,
I'm not picking on anyone but there has been some mention of a ramp up and ramp down switch on the new B9 "organ" machine. That type of control would be present on a "Leslie" sim but not on a straight organ unit.

admin · Post by **b0b** » 30 Jun 2014 8:40 am

Len Amaral wrote:I had a friend drop by that is getting married and I played "Here comes the bride"
with the Cathederal setting and we all had a good laugh.

Here's a demo I did a while back with the POG2.
http://soundhost.net/2012/11/the-wedding-march/

Greg Spence · Post by **Greg Spence** » 30 Jun 2014 5:52 pm

b0b wrote:
Len Amaral wrote:I had a friend drop by that is getting married and I played "Here comes the bride"
with the Cathederal setting and we all had a good laugh.
Here's a demo I did a while back with the POG2.
http://soundhost.net/2012/11/the-wedding-march/

b0b, those demos are incredible - I liked the first one the best too.

Scott Denniston · Post by **Scott Denniston** » 1 Jul 2014 2:07 pm

Thing is though that software has kind of outdone a pedal that does one instrument. This one's pretty new I guess. http://jamorigin.com/products/midi-guitar/#toggle-id-6 Every instrument you can think of if you have a good sample program. Instead of a pedal you would use a laptop & interface. I've read that there are no tracking issues. Play everything from oboe to baby grand to B3 to sax etc.... There are a lot of guys playing through software live now. This midi program tracks a guitar about perfectly (I haven't used it but read quite a bit on it) and I don't see why it wouldn't work with steel. One could probably figure out some side loop configuration to use when you want something besides steel through your amp. I think I'd go for the laptop & interface investment before buying another one trick pony pedal.

Eric Philippsen · Post by **Eric Philippsen** » 1 Jul 2014 2:57 pm

I got my Electro-Harmonix B9 a couple of days ago and spent some time with it today. In my opinion it is great and it's definitely earned a spot on my pedalboard. Each of the settings are very useable. I love it.

For six-string work, the adjustment for one's technique is very minimal, if one notices that at all. The fact that it doesn't have a "ramp-up" leslie feature, as some have pointed out, is a shrug of the shoulders to me. Heck, it doesn't allow for the use of matchbooks stuck between the stops either. Nor does it have drawbars or black and white keys. Makes no difference to me. I still think it's great.

I stopped at my favorite music store this afternoon and they had one set out for customers to demo. Players were crowded around and everyone was impressed with it.

Josh Rossow · Post by **Josh Rossow** » 1 Jul 2014 9:30 pm

Just got it a couple days ago and its pretty sweet. I recorded it going into the Digital Leslie I got. Here's the video clip. Sorry the very beginning and the very end of the clip got cut off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WThUwj41cQQ

Jay Ganz · Post by **Jay Ganz** » 2 Jul 2014 5:07 am

Maybe it's just me...but it appears as though the different settings mainly affect only the tonal frequencies.
I was hoping for more of what the drawbars actually do on my old Hammond, which raise or lower the 3rd, 5th, or octave to the root note.
I guess I'd have to check one out for myself.

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 2 Jul 2014 7:27 am

Josh,
That sounds good to my old ears.
I got notice yesterday that mine is on its way.

Josh Rossow · Post by **Josh Rossow** » 2 Jul 2014 3:16 pm

Cool Erv, yeah this pedal is a keeper. It's gunna be a fun one to use.

Rich Santucci · Post by **Rich Santucci** » 2 Jul 2014 5:44 pm

The EH pedal sounds pretty good! But I was sold on the sound of the Neo Ventilator a few years back. There used to be some clips or a video of someone, maybe here, playing PSG thru one. The Neo unit has a speed up/down feature.

http://www.neo-instruments.de/

They just came out with a new edition the Ventilator II. Of course its twice the cost of the EH.

Gerry Simon · Post by **Gerry Simon** » 2 Jul 2014 11:49 pm

Rich,I have the Ventilator1 and it only creates the Leslie part of the sound, not the actual organ sound. It works great but you still need the EH Pog 2 or the new box from EH (which sounds better to my ears) ...a lot of keyboardists use the Vent in addition to their keyboard sounds because many keyboards don't have as good a Leslie effect..

Eric Philippsen · Post by **Eric Philippsen** » 3 Jul 2014 4:10 am

I just started playing 6-string with a jump-swing band and I brought the B9 stompbox to the rehearsal last night. It would be an understatement to say that using it made a huge difference. No doubt about it, it turned everybody's head. My hope is that I can work some pedal steel playing into the group's tunes, too

Anyway, I quickly learned, though, that you have to use the B9 sparingly and not on every tune. Otherwise, as good as it really does sound, it's overkill.

Cartwright Thompson · Post by **Cartwright Thompson** » 3 Jul 2014 5:08 am

I agree Eric, sparingly is the key. Also, using pedal movement sounds totally cheesy to me, so the pedal demands some thought about technique.
I have been fooling around with it at home for a few days and it is a ton of fun. Now I just have to decide which Leslie sim to buy. I think the Vent is the one although I'd like to try the digital Leslie too. I had a Lex a while back and found it underwhelming.

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