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Topic: LeGrande Pedal Action? |
Bob Snelgrove
From: san jose, ca
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Posted 30 Nov 2003 9:52 am
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Hi Gang
How would you rate the feel of the LG pedals and knee levers? I have a Franklin, Mullen, and P/P. The Franklin defies the laws of physics, the Mullen is tight, smooth, and precise and the P/P is, well. a P/P I'd like to know how a new LG compares to a Carter, as well?
thx
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Wayne Baker
From: Altus Oklahoma
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Posted 30 Nov 2003 1:39 pm
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Bob, I have a Legrande and a p/p, and they both have basically the same pedal action (butter) due to the Bobbe Seymour maintenance videos and a little oil. If I could only make them sound like he was playing them....
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C Dixon
From: Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2003 2:13 pm
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My LeGrande has much better pedal action than I ever got on my P/P. This is of course due in most part because of necessary slop in the pedals when strings are raised AND lowered. Also because they must have two stops, the P/P's have always felt a bit spongy to me.
My Sierra pedals were much too stiff. This I feel was due to the scale length. Which I also believe caused premature string breakage.
My Excel pedals "feel" fall somewhere between the P/P and my LeGrande. This will change drastically as I convert the undercarriage to Emmons belcranks; because they will allow perfect "timing" of all pulls; which plays a major role in the feel of a pedal on a PSG.
Since I never played a Mullen or Zum or Shobud etc, I can only state what I feel just engaging their pedals at conventions going from one booth to the other.
Considering this, I would rate the Mullen an absolute dream in this respect. The Zum not far behind. I do not like the fact that the Zum's (I have seen) have NO return spring on the crossbar cranks. So I would have to favor the Mullen over any pedal I have ever pressed.
Any Sho-Bud pedal I have sat down to has been a bit too stiff for my tastes. The Carter is the ONLY guitar I have ever sat down to that made me feel like it was meant for for me.
I do not however like its sound or some of the mechanical things. But I believe it has the best shaped pedals of any PSG being produced today. I have never sat down to a Franklin so I have to reserve judgement on their pedal action. This goes for all the others too; as well as the new MSA. I have never engaged their pedals so I have no idea what they feel like.
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Bob Snelgrove
From: san jose, ca
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Posted 30 Nov 2003 3:05 pm
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Thanks, Carl
So how does the Legrande action compare to the Carter? (My main reason for the thread)
thx
bob
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 1 Dec 2003 3:41 pm
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Hi Bob. This is off topic, but, why don't you ever bring a guitar to our jams? |
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Tom Wicks
From: Coombs, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 3 Dec 2003 12:56 am
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My new D-10 Williams has the best pedal sction I have ever used, Tom playing with a D10 Le Gande a Williams D10 keyless to a Hilton pedal to a RD-3 to an Evans, plaing three and four times a week, I must be in heaven. Tom |
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Bob Lawrence
From: Beaver Bank, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 3 Dec 2003 5:12 am
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After playing my new Franklin for just over a week I sat at my old 1985 Emmons p/p just to remind me what the difference was. All I can say is that the Franklin is like a P/P on Steroids. The Carter test is next...........
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Jack Strayhorn
From: Winston-Salem, NC
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Posted 3 Dec 2003 8:13 pm
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The LeGrande action is not as easy as some models. This was by design because Buddy always liked a certain amount of resistance. The Zum is somewhat easier with about the same amount of travel. But the Zum's I've played has some roughness in there feel. The Franklin is also very easy and very short travel. This is great for the super fast player but takes away from the soulful note bending. The Mullen is very similiar to an Emmons in resistance but has a slightly mushey feel at the bottom. These are the only guitars I have any experience with, at least enough to give an opinion on. And I would like to express it is my opinion and has been a few years since I've been around any of these guitars. I am sure all companies have made improvements since. I do not find the resistance in my Emmons guitar to be of any issue. I think they are great the way they are and would never consider anything else. Unless of course someone can build one better and most importantly, beat the sound! |
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