Eminence EPS -12 for Peavey Nashville 112!!!

Tommy White · Post by **Tommy White** » 23 Apr 2014 5:03 pm

I installed the new EPS-12c in the Nashville 112 today. It sounds tons better. It is cleaner, more balanced and has less of the mid honk than the original speaker. Weighs a lot less too! So, with the new Eminence speaker and new MOD brand reverb tank this amp is incredible. Just sharing the information for those not satisfied with the stock Nashville 112.
It went from a so so sounding inexpensive steel amp to an expensive high fidelity sounding amp that I'd play anywhere.

Richard Tipple · Post by **Richard Tipple** » 23 Apr 2014 6:04 pm

Hay thanks for the tip there Tommy

I haven't used my NV112 for some time now because of the ,,Honk, in the mid range,,never could get it quite right. I may try the EPS speaker & see what I get,,,,

Tommy White · Post by **Tommy White** » 23 Apr 2014 6:32 pm

Richard, what I should have said was, it virtually deleted the honk. I can now dial in some midrange to my liking. Amazing how much sparkle, more function of the eq controls and clarity the Eminence speaker gave the little amp. I would guess the Peavey light weight speaker would do the same. Since installing the EPS 15 speakers in my Evans and Webbs, I just thought I'd give the Eminence a try in the Nashville112. Glad I did!

Jim Priebe · Post by **Jim Priebe** » 23 Apr 2014 11:30 pm

Why Peavey ever selected the Blue Marvel for this otherwise great amp (NV 112) really escapes me.
I have tried hooking the Bl M to just about every thing (Vocals, Monitor, Karaoke (ugh!), Big bins - you name it) and it consistently turns the sound to very ordinary.
On the other hand the EPS speakers have just the opposite effect- even in amps aimed at Guitars - always improves the sound - bright, plenty of bass response, nice manageable mids and sweet plus buckets of volume capacity.
Nice product Eminence! As for the "Marvel" well-----??

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 24 Apr 2014 2:35 am

I took away most of the "mid honk" in my NV112 by installing the OPA2134 op amps on the preamp board. I'm not a fan of "amp mods" but this one is worth it.

Wayne Quinn · Post by **Wayne Quinn** » 24 Apr 2014 8:55 am

well Tommy comeing from you sounds very interesting. I have a EPS 12 with about 5 hrs playing on it. had it in a 130 peavey special that I had. and I removed it when I sold the amp and I was wondering what it might sound like in the 112. now I think you just convinced me to give it a try . does it bolt up in the amp ok Tommy and thanks for your information Tommy. I really do appreciate this info

Tim Whitlock · Post by **Tim Whitlock** » 24 Apr 2014 10:21 am

Curious as to why the EPS-12c only comes in a 4 ohm version. Most 12" speaker applications are 8 ohm. I'd love to try them out but my 2x12 amps want to see 4 ohms, not 2, and my 1x12 amps want to see 8 ohms, not 4. Is the Nash 112 4 ohms?

Tommy White · Post by **Tommy White** » 24 Apr 2014 10:34 am

Hi Wayne,
Yes, the Eminence has the same exact bolt/mount pattern. It took me about 20 minutes to
change the speaker . Simply pull the back bottom panel off, remove locknuts, give the old speaker a firm yank and out it comes. Remove old paper gasket from baffle board, as the Eminence came with a thick firm foam gasket already on speaker. 2 gaskets won't allow enough thread on mounting bolts for nuts to bite. ( figured that out the hard way). Be sure to check length of speaker wires coming out of the amp. Mine were really short and not much to work with. If they are indeed short, you will need to clip the wide blade of the clips off, leaving just the stem of the wire connectors. Those connector stems will then fit perfectly into the new speaker connectors and tighten down.
Tim, I just assumed the Nashville 112 was 4 ohm like all other Peavey steel guitar amps. I didn't measure ohms. Seems to be better than fine. I think Eminence does manufacture 12" 8ohm light weight speakers for many applications. Hopefully they have one for your needs.

Jack Stoner · Post by **Jack Stoner** » 24 Apr 2014 10:52 am

The Blue Marvel speaker is made by Eminence for Peavey, thus another Eminence speaker should be an exact fit.

Tommy White · Post by **Tommy White** » 24 Apr 2014 10:54 am

Well yeah, what Jack said.

James Gennrich · Post by **James Gennrich** » 24 Apr 2014 11:58 am

Tommy don't worry about putting a 4 ohm ESP 12 in your Nashville. The Nashville is rated at 80 watts at 4 ohms, so it is looking for a 4 ohm load. Jim

Tommy White · Post by **Tommy White** » 24 Apr 2014 12:14 pm

Thank you James. Just as I assumed. So there you have it Mr. Tim!

Chris Boyd · Post by **Chris Boyd** » 24 Apr 2014 12:44 pm

Tim... Telonics makes an 8 ohm neo 12"( also an Eminence) that would work for you... many guys here have raved about the 4 ohm version,and enough inquiries were made that they went ahead with the 8 ohm version...

Wayne Quinn · Post by **Wayne Quinn** » 24 Apr 2014 5:34 pm

appreciate the help.Thanks Tommy and Jack also for the info. like I said be for I really do appreciate the help. I,am going to switch her tomorrow

Gary Reed · Post by **Gary Reed** » 24 Apr 2014 6:17 pm

Will the Telonics 12" 4ohm line up with holes in a Nashville 112 as the EPS-12C does?

Gary Reed · Post by **Gary Reed** » 24 Apr 2014 7:20 pm

Tim,
I believe Jim Palenscar sells Telonics 12" 8 and 4 ohm.
http://www.steelguitars.me/

Bob Hamilton · Post by **Bob Hamilton** » 24 Apr 2014 8:47 pm

I just put an Altec 417-8c in mine. Wow what a difference.

Roger Francis · Post by **Roger Francis** » 25 Apr 2014 5:02 am

I have the telonics 12- 4 ohm in my 112 and what a great speaker it is for this amp, might just be my ears but seems to have more volume to it, pre on 3 post on 4-5 and its about all i want, and the tone is great

Jay Ganz · Post by **Jay Ganz** » 25 Apr 2014 5:04 am

Gary Reed wrote:Will the Telonics 12" 4ohm line up with holes in a Nashville 112 as the EPS-12C does?

Again...they're all made by Eminence so they should have the same mounting pattern.
Just the "innards" are a bit different depending on the specs each company wants Eminence to use when making their particular speaker.

Tommy White · Post by **Tommy White** » 25 Apr 2014 1:17 pm

Yes, what Mr. Jay said!
Bob, the EPS -12c is rated at 450 watts where as the Altec is rated at 70 watts, which is less wattage than the Nashville 112 is rated. You may experience distortion and less control of EQ at higher volume with the Altec. However, if it sounds good to you, that really is all that matters.

Bob Hamilton · Post by **Bob Hamilton** » 25 Apr 2014 2:10 pm

Hi Tommy, haven't had it out of the house yet, but the A/B test at home was enough for me to give it a try. The Altec site says it's rated at 75 watts, so I'm pretty close to the 112 in power handling. I use the NV 400 for the louder groups anyway. Thanks for the tip tho, I'll be listening. B

Howard Parker · Post by **Howard Parker** » 25 Apr 2014 2:30 pm

I can confirm that the Telonics is a drop in replacement for the N-112.

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Gary Reed · Post by **Gary Reed** » 25 Apr 2014 2:44 pm

Howard,
Any problems with gasget replacement?

Tommy White · Post by **Tommy White** » 25 Apr 2014 3:31 pm

Hi Gary,
If indeed the Eminence manufactured Telonics is packaged as the
Eminence EPS-12c it will have a firm foam gasket for face mounting.
That gasket is thicker and better than the oem gasket. You will simply
need to peel the old paper gasket from the baffle board. Very easy task.

mike nolan · Post by **mike nolan** » 25 Apr 2014 6:13 pm

I have the EPS 12c 4 ohm in an extension cab that I use with various heads. I bought the Telonics 8 ohm 12" to put in a Deluxe reverb as Eminence does not make an 8 ohm 12". I actually like the EPS 12C better on the high mid and high end.... in a tube amp, but I think that the Telonics is nicer in a solid state amp.

Just got an EPS 15C that I'm going to install in a new combo cab that arrived from JD Newell this week... the combo will be a 15 with a 62 Bassman. Pictures could follow.....

Thanks for the info Tommy.... maybe that Nash 112 of mine is coming back out of the closet

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