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Karen Sarkisian


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Boston, MA, USA
Post  Posted 21 Mar 2014 3:46 pm    
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I think that my analog delay sounds better and less distorted in the effects loop of my steel king rather than in front of the amp. does this make sense ??
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Dave Hopping


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Aurora, Colorado
Post  Posted 21 Mar 2014 6:05 pm    
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Yes,it does.Gain-based effects like compression and distortion work best going straight into the front of the amp.Time-based effects like delay,chorus,flange work best in the loop.
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Karen Sarkisian


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Post  Posted 21 Mar 2014 6:15 pm    
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cool thanks. reverb in effects loop too then ??
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mike nolan


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Forest Hills, NY USA
Post  Posted 21 Mar 2014 7:02 pm    
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Reverb either place..... check by ear. When I go with an outboard reverb I prefer it last in the main signal chain, more amp like.
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Dave Grafe


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Hudson River Valley NY
Post  Posted 21 Mar 2014 10:38 pm    
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reverb in effects loop too then ??


The reverb will generally be most effective as the last device in the effects chain, so it would follow the delay and return to the amp.
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Daryl Thisdelle

 

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New Brunswick, Canada
Post  Posted 1 Jul 2014 4:00 pm     Effects
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Ya know I have been told many times where to put things and I have not learned yet as they keep telling where to put it..... Not helpful musically...The funny thing about effects and where they should go should be left up to your ears and what sounds best to you Karen. Every one hears things differently and what sounds like solid gold to one and is just terrible for another. First I think you need to know what sound you are after or what sound makes you smile. You may find out your set up is different than others. I use my own ears to tell me what sounds good to me and what does not. Most people set up effects a certain way and end up not happy, they think they need more effects to get the sound they want. Mix up your sound you like maybe a totally different set up....is there a right or a wrong way, no . go after the sound you want to have and check out all the options in a loop and not in the loop. You may find out the sound you like is follow the leader or it could be a totally different route. Just do not cut your self short following the leader.

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Steve Spitz

 

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New Orleans, LA, USA
Post  Posted 1 Jul 2014 5:00 pm     In the loop
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Karen,
I'd use the effects loop. It usually sounds better to send a clean signal from your volume pedal to the amp input, and keep the effects in the loop. Let us know if that sounds better .
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Brad Sarno


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St. Louis, MO USA
Post  Posted 1 Jul 2014 9:11 pm    
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Analog delays like to have a strong signal to have the best fidelity. If the signal going into the delay is too weak, the echoes can be distorted or extra low-fidelity. But if the level is too strong, you'll have unwanted distortion from overdriving the pedal's input and you'll have clipping in the echoes too.

It sounds like your analog delay is handling the effects loop signal level nicely without clipping, so in your case you're getting a strong and good quality analog echo. There are plenty of pedals that just can't handle the hotter levels of an effects loop. It varies from pedal to pedal and also different amps have different signal strengths passing thru their effect loops.

Brad
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