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Jim Rossen

 

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Iowa, USA
Post  Posted 1 Mar 2014 6:43 pm    
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I seek suggestions for a resource (preferably printed) for basic tuning and adjustment of an 10 string E9 3 pedal 4 knee PSG.
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Jim
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Scott Duckworth


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Post  Posted 1 Mar 2014 6:51 pm    
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See the top of this chart...

http://www.buddyemmons.com/TTChart.htm

The + and - figures are above and below center frequency of the note.
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 1 Mar 2014 6:52 pm    
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Make and model? The different forms have different procedures.
Sorry for the lack of immediate help, but if you have a pull-release guitar, it won't adjust the same as an all-pull or a push-pull.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 1 Mar 2014 6:53 pm    
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Scott, that can tell him what values to tune to. Won't tell him the procedures.
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Jim Rossen

 

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Iowa, USA
Post  Posted 1 Mar 2014 7:28 pm    
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Lane Gray wrote:
Make and model? The different forms have different procedures.
Sorry for the lack of immediate help, but if you have a pull-release guitar, it won't adjust the same as an all-pull or a push-pull.


Justice S10 3/4
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Jim
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 1 Mar 2014 8:04 pm    
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Fred will probably be along shortly (especially if you edit the subject line of the original post to reflect it), and he may have an owner's manual available. I know he's a heck of a nice guy, I've met him a few times.
There's a handful of different options for what the knees do, but here's some basics for that kind of guitar. The open strings are tuned
F#
D#
G#
E
B
G#
F#
E
D
B
Tune these first.
The first pedal (usually, sometimes it's the third pedal) will raise the two B strings to C#, tune those with the nylon nuts that move when you press the pedals (I find it works best to tune those nuts while the pedal or lever is activated, some believe in releasing the change to tune it. I think they're goofballs)
The second pedal will raise the two G#s to A
The third pedal raises the 4th string E to F# and the 5th string B to C#.
All the pedals described are raises: they'll be in the top half of the changer fingers. Lowers go in the bottom half of the changer. Turning raise nuts clockwise will make them sharper, anticlockwise will make them less sharp. Lowers will be flatter as you turn them clockwise, less flat as you turn them anticlockwise.
One knee lever will raise the two Es to F (actually it's E#, but that's a distracting point), and one will lower them to D#.
One lever will almost certainly lower the second string to C# and also lower the 9th string to C#. Typically you tune the 2nd string C# with the nylon nut on the second string. There's a pause at D, that you tune with the nylon nut on the 9th string (it's weird, but it works), you tune the nut till you feel the added resistance of the 9th string kicking in when the second string is at D. The 9th string C# is tuned with the metal screw.
The fourth knee lever, you'll have to let us know what it does, as it's not entirely standard (mine raises 1 to G and lowers 6 to F#).
As for adjustments, it really shouldn't need any unless it's been messed with. It's based on a pretty stable design.
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Bob Hoffnar


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Austin, Tx
Post  Posted 1 Mar 2014 8:26 pm    
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Jim,
Get yourself a copy of "Pedal Steel Guitar" by Winnie Winston and Bill Keith.

It is great resource that will be very useful now and for as long as you play the pedalsteel. The trouble shooting section alone is pricless.
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 1 Mar 2014 8:55 pm    
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Bob Hoffnar wrote:
Jim,
Get yourself a copy of "Pedal Steel Guitar" by Winnie Winston and Bill Keith.

It is great resource that will be very useful now and for as long as you play the pedalsteel. The trouble shooting section alone is pricless.

Oh, and this.
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Ken Campbell

 

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Ferndale, Montana
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2014 12:23 am    
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Yes. This.
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Dick Sexton


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Greenville, Ohio
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2014 6:23 am     The book...
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Winnie's book "Pedal Steel Guitar". More then just tuning, a great place to start...
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chris ivey


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california (deceased)
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2014 5:51 pm    
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once again you're a little quick on the draw duckworth.
what if the guy was looking for the mechanical aspect?
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Dick Sexton


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Greenville, Ohio
Post  Posted 3 Mar 2014 5:34 am     I don't know why...
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Chris's comment struck me so funny... I guess I'm visualizing it out of context,
and needed a good laugh.

Dirty Harry to his partner, "Once again, your a little quick on the draw there, Duckworth!

Sorry Scott, just tickled my funny bone and exactly what I needed this morning. Laughing
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