Pedal Steel and a Leslie/Hammond sound

[Erv Niehaus]

Yes, it is very easy to operate. It is a really nice unit. It is unique in that it has a 4 or 5 position chicken head knob that lets you dial in different Leslie cabinets, even the Fender unit that has been discussed.

[Godfrey Arthur]

Yes, it is very easy to operate. It is a really nice unit. It is unique in that it has a 4 or 5 position chicken head knob that lets you dial in different Leslie cabinets, even the Fender unit that has been discussed.

That's good to know. Reason for asking, among the other sim units discussed, the Leslie brand unit has not received much, if any, discussion on organ clone forums. It's usually the Vent, Burn or Strymon that gets all the attention. Since this is a psg forum, I am extra curious as to which of these sim units steelers will favor and why.

[Erv Niehaus]

Maybe the reason they don't get much press is because they're rather scarce. I had to wait quite a while to get mine. They kept postponing its delivery over and over again.
I think we need to keep in mind that maybe organ players and steel players have different piorities. A unit that organ players think is great might not light our fire.

[Godfrey Arthur]

Maybe the reason they don't get much press is because they're rather scarce. I had to wait quite a while to get mine. They kept postponing its delivery over and over again.
I think we need to keep in mind that maybe organ players and steel players have different piorities. A unit that organ players think is great might not light our fire.

Yes I understand the differences between the organ and guitar. While I understand the organ priorities, being into psg of late, I'm wondering which of these units will find favor with the psg community, if ever. As with organ only a psg player will know what they prefer for their type of instrument.

Yes I think Ham-Suz has lagged in promotion of their units. Sweetwater, Zzounds has them in stock now.

[Clete Ritta]

Erv, your Toneworks G4 just reminded me that my Korg A2 rack unit has a decent stereo rotary simulator in it. The expression pedal controls the brake.

[Tommy Wayne]

I remember hearing "El Tonto De Nadie" from Poco's 2nd lp when I was a kid and just digging the hell out of the organ till I heard the pitch rise and realized it had to be the steel!

Rusty Young... great musician, innovator and dynamic performer

[Kevin Bergdorf]

As far as pedals - The Line 6 Rotomachine has two wooden Leslie and a 16 model and works very well - you don't get the same spaciousness as real one, but it sounds more like a recorded version. The Boss RT20 is large and more "wooden-model" like, but has a ton of adjustments (both can be used in stereo). The old Arion SCH-1 Chorus (NOT the newer SCZ-1) has a great Leslie 16 sound on the slowest setting. There are a bunch of others, some good, some awful (avoid the Danelectro Rocky Road like the plague!!!) but those two are the most prevalent, with multi-effcts pedals with Leslie patches following.

The real king of floor pedals is the long-discontinued Korg G4. You can adjust it between horn and hornless sounds, it has a variable boost switch, the ramping is very realistic and it has a memory function for saving your preferred setting. It beats every other pedal (I've tried dozens) hands down - the only downsides are it's large (about 10"x8") and the plastic-mounted jacks can break. Used they run about $3-500 and are worth every cent IMO.
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Better than the Hughes Kettner Rotosphere?

[Greg Cutshaw]

I had the Hughes Kettner Rotosphere and it sounds great in stereo, live or recorded. In Mono it's pretty bland and a bit annoying. The Line 6 Roto-Machine sounds real nice in mono, so nice I sold the H&K and kept the Roto-Machine. The Fender/Leslie Model 16 is great but has very limited volume if left with a stock amp and speaker.

Some reviews that include both:

http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Pog2/Pog2.html


http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Pog2%20With% ... phere.html

[David Shepack]

I was wondering why there wasn't much talk about Rusty Young on the forum, when I read about the criteria of contribution with regards to the Hall of Fame.
I think Rusty contributed plenty in the form of stretching boundaries and introducing the PSG to many many Poco Fans.
I had a Leslie/Fender 16. I loved the idea of it, but didn't care for the sound.
BTW there is a shop owner/ collector in my home town that has a tweed model 16. It might be a customized unit. The 16 came with a HD 10 inch speaker, no horn. The sound was " spun ?" vertically instead of horizontally. The spinning baffle was constructed of styrofoam. To be honest, I wish I still had mine, because they traveled well. ( and I love the Fender look ) I seem to remember taking it apart (often) in a fruitless effort to adjust the speeds to my liking. Failed
ALSO…Rusty can sing!!!!! I guess I didn't notice because he was in a band with all lead singers. Someone with clout should nominate him for the PSG Hall of Fame

[Russ Tkac]

He was just inducted last year.

[Don Griffiths]

My jaw his hanging open again with depth of information discussed here on the forum. Just learned everything and more that I ever wanted to know about Leslie's and also unconventional techniques used by a respected pro.I wanted to update a link from one of the earlier posts on this thread to an article on Rusty Young.
www.calsharp.com/rusty.html

[Larry Allen]

I've used the Alesis Midiverb 4 for years, in addition to great reverb/delay and chorus, there are 3 Leslie effects. All good with footswitchable fast/slow speeds. I made a hand control as I'm out of feet! Larry