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Topic: Placement of effects/footswitches |
Nicholas Dedring
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Beacon, New York, USA
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Posted 6 Oct 2003 10:33 am |
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So, I'm trying to work in a couple of effects loop options, for variety of sound... Where do you folks put a wah pedal or other boxes, so that you can get at them relatively easily???
I feel like I'm one leg and one foot short of adequate limbs to switch, toggle and wah with...
Stompboxes (if they were used) I can see putting next to you, and getting them with a hand... but something like a Rotosphere, or a wah pedal, or the effects loop footswitch seems to need to be stepped on. |
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Rainer Hackstaette
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Bohmte, Germany
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Posted 6 Oct 2003 11:43 am
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Nicholas,
you can place a single stomp box like the loop switch behind your volume pedal, but turned by 180 degrees, so that you can activate the switch with the heel of your right foot by sliding back on the vol.-pedal. (I hope that makes sense!  )
If you have 8 or less pedals a wah-wah could be placed to the left of the vol.-ped. With 9 or 10 pedals there is definately not enough room there. You may have to use angled phone jacks to save space.
In order to use the on/off switch of a leslie during a solo you'll have to grow another limb. 
I just switch my rotosphere on (by hand) before a solo and switch it off when I'm done.
A couple of months back there was a thread here about micro-switches that can be activated by a flick of the wrist, a nod of the head or the blink of an eye - or by sticking your tongue out.  But I'm not yet ready for that ...
Rainer
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 6 Oct 2003 11:48 am
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"In order to use the on/off switch of a leslie during a solo you'll have to grow another limb. "
The great Bob White (Hank Thompson fame), had a white MSA PSG with what appeared to be a RKV.
However, it turned out to be nothing more than a switch to turn his Leslie on and off.
carl
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 6 Oct 2003 12:32 pm
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I use a two button remote to turn my Rotosphere on and off and also to change speeds from hi to low. I place the remote just to the left of my first foot pedal. It's suprising how a person can get used to operating it.
Erv |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 6 Oct 2003 12:39 pm
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| Erv--what footswitch do you have? I ran the roto last night pretty successfully, on the floor, turned sideways just to the left of the volume pedal, but I'd much rather try your way. |
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John Macy
From:
Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 6 Oct 2003 1:46 pm
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| When I was touring with Richie Furay, we did a lot of his earlier Poco stuff that Rusty Young played that cool leslie stuff on. I mounted a momentary contact switch between the necks with velcro so I could activate the speed change with my right palm. Worked like a charm, and no need for the extra limb... . |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 7 Oct 2003 12:34 pm
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| Hey John---most excellent. My right hand is far more available for something like that than either foot. Definitely the way I will go. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 7 Oct 2003 1:34 pm
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Jon,
It's just a two button Peavey foot switch that I used to use with a rack mounted guitar amp. It has a stereo plug on it so you can access both the on/off and the fast/slow. It really works slick. I play through a rack setup and locate the Rotosphere close to the rack with short chords. It even has lights on it so you can see what you're doing.
Erv[This message was edited by Erv Niehaus on 07 October 2003 at 02:35 PM.] |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 8 Oct 2003 6:23 am
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I built a vertical stomp box rack that clips on to the right leg of my steel. It has 4 effects ( Compressor, Fuzz, Phase shifter, and EQ unit), a power supply, and a box with hand switches to activate the effects.. I plug the output of the steel into the input of the rack, and the output of the rack into the volume pedal.
The effects are always turned on. I used bypass loops to rought the signal through the effect or away from it. The switches for the loops are conveniently located near my right hand so I can get to them very quickly.
The system, which was invented by steel guitarist Dave Zeiglar, works extremely well. It makes it very easy to use the effects, and it also prevents signal loss and bleed through. The bypass loops themselves are passive and need no batteries or maintenence.
If anybody wants a wireing diagram and directions on how to make them, E-mail me and I'll send them to you. |
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Joerg Hennig
From:
Bavaria, Germany
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Posted 9 Oct 2003 9:00 am
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I don´t always use effects but one or two distortion stompboxes now and then and put them just to the right of the volume pedal and find that pretty comfortable.
Buddy Cage has an effects board with maybe four or five pedals also on the right side at a 90 degree angle.
Regards, Joe H.[This message was edited by Joe Henry on 09 October 2003 at 10:02 AM.] |
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2003 9:46 am
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FWIW, I think Compression works best when put before the V-ped.
Basically, IMHO, anything that you want to get a full strength signal to (ie. compression, chorus, etc), should be before the volume pedal.
I've found Delay and/or Reverb work better (for me) after the V-ped, because I like the way the decay/repeats still sound after the V-ped is shut off.
If there is a quick "stop" where silence is desired for a moment, I just shut the Delay/Reverb off a few seconds before that part so I can still hit the last note hard, but not have any repeats/decay sounding after that. OTOH, If you run the Delay/Reverb before the V-ped, nothing will get by it when it is closed.
What do others think/do? |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 9 Oct 2003 11:31 am
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Absolutely, Pete. I find it downright disconcerting to back off the v pedal and have it cut off the tail of your 'ambience'.
My ear is far less disturbed by whatever tonal inconsistencies may result from variable signal feed into a reverb or delay from the v.pedal. |
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Jim Smith
From:
Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2003 11:36 am
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Buddy Emmons has a nice discussion of the placement of his effects at the end of the Denver CD. All of his effects, even his compressor and distortion are after his volume pedal!
They don't sound good when I do it that way, but then I'm not Buddy. I think he might have his volume pedal maxed when using these effects, but I'm not sure. |
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Randy Beavers
From:
Lebanon,TN 37090
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Posted 9 Oct 2003 12:21 pm
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| I've found a new placement for my effects pedals. The CLOSET! |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 9 Oct 2003 3:32 pm
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| Moved to 'Electronics' section. |
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