Finally people are getting tired of it

George Crickmore · Post by **George Crickmore** » 10 Dec 2013 3:56 am

It seems more and more people are getting tired if this modern country trash.

Only bad thing about the article is Toby Keith. Talk about a guy who is a pop country as they get. with that Red Solo Cup trash. Along with many more useless tunes.

http://blogs.tennessean.com/tunein/2013 ... new-rules/

Curt Trisko · Post by **Curt Trisko** » 10 Dec 2013 6:04 am

I think a lot of it is just that the country music industry targets younger people instead of the older folks on here. You can't honestly expect an 18-year old to appreciate songs about divorce, losing your job, and so on because they haven't experienced that yet. Older folks generally don't support new artists. They just stick with what they already know and love.

Jack Strayhorn · Post by **Jack Strayhorn** » 10 Dec 2013 6:41 am

When I was ten years old I just loved the record, "Linda On My Mind". Did I understand or relate to the content? I just loved the way it all sounded.

George Crickmore · Post by **George Crickmore** » 10 Dec 2013 6:46 am

Curt Trisko wrote:I think a lot of it is just that the country music industry targets younger people instead of the older folks on here. You can't honestly expect an 18-year old to appreciate songs about divorce, losing your job, and so on because they haven't experienced that yet. Older folks generally don't support new artists. They just stick with what they already know and love.

That may be true but don't call it country. Call it something else because country it's not.

Steve Hinson · Post by **Steve Hinson** » 10 Dec 2013 7:09 am

Jack Strayhorn wrote:When I was ten years old I just loved the record, "Linda On My Mind". Did I understand or relate to the content? I just loved the way it all sounded.

Same here,Jack!I didn't really pay attention to the lyrics as a kid,just liked the sound of the steel,guitar,all of it...vocal too.

Tony Glassman · Post by **Tony Glassman** » 10 Dec 2013 8:09 am

Today's "country" is just yesterday's southern rock. I don't hate it, I just miss real C&W. Consequently, I usually leave the radio off and listen to my CD or mp3 collection.

I do like "Red Solo Cup" as a novelty tune.

Curt Trisko · Post by **Curt Trisko** » 10 Dec 2013 8:16 am

I also don't like it when newer "country" artists act like they're carrying on the heritage of country music. I don't know any of them personally, but I want to believe that they sincerely carry forward the tradition personally, even if they don't feel that it's commercially feasible to express it in their music.

Richard Sinkler · Post by **Richard Sinkler** » 10 Dec 2013 11:35 am

Steve Hinson wrote:
Jack Strayhorn wrote:When I was ten years old I just loved the record, "Linda On My Mind". Did I understand or relate to the content? I just loved the way it all sounded.
Same here,Jack!I didn't really pay attention to the lyrics as a kid,just liked the sound of the steel,guitar,all of it...vocal too.

I don't remember if I was still in high school or not, but when this song came out, I was still hanging (have to talk in the new country tradition) with my high school sweetheart, and her name was Linda. While the words didn't ring true for us, we loved the song anyway.

I am lucky to be in a band that does a lot of "old classic" music, ala Ray Price, Buck, Merle, etc... And,yes. I prefer the old stuff (but do get a little tired of it), but I also like a lot of the "new country". The thing I hate the most, is all the people who piss, whine and moan about the new country people calling the music "country". Maybe I should Google the names of some of those whiners and see if they have been named the "Country Music God", and we didn't get the memo. Let's see how many of these people are mentioned. I say, "JUST GET OVER IT". Your snivelling isn't going to change anything.

Jack Hanson · Post by **Jack Hanson** » 10 Dec 2013 12:07 pm

To quote the great Rice Miller (Sonny Boy Williamson II) in his inimitable "Little Village" (Warning -- for adult ears only):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Y-612X7g8

"You name it your mammy if you wanna."

Guess I agree with Sonny Boy. I don't really care what it's called, but I can tell whether or not I like it.

What bugs me is all the hyphenated hyperbole, such as Indie-Neo-Classical-California-Hybrid-Country-Techno-Rock, or whatever.

Skip Edwards · Post by **Skip Edwards** » 10 Dec 2013 12:25 pm

There's a quote that's been attributed to Don Henley, who, bemoaning the current state of affairs in country music has said - tongue firmly in cheek -

"If we had known it was going to come to this, we never would've formed the Eagles"

Or words to that effect...

Rick Schacter · Post by **Rick Schacter** » 10 Dec 2013 1:38 pm

Tony Glassman wrote:Today's "country" is just yesterday's southern rock.

Except that yesterday's southern rock had a lot more depth to it.

I don't remember who the artist was, but not that long ago there was a so called "country" song that had a chorus that went something like this:

"rain makes corn, corn makes whiskey, whiskey makes my baby, feel real frisky".

Are you kidding me!? I felt myself losing brain matter as the song was playing and had to change the station real quick!
Those lyrics are just as stupid as anything that The Village People ever performed!

There isn't one Eagles, Pure Prairie League, Poco or any other southern or country rock band who wrote such crap lyrics like that.

Finally, "real" country music has a heck of a lot more depth too.

Rick

Jerry Hayes · Post by **Jerry Hayes** » 10 Dec 2013 1:51 pm

I'm almost 74 (in January) and when I first started listening to and liking Country Music, Hank Williams was still alive........ At one point Ray Price was "New Country" because of the drums and the notorious "Ray Price Shuffle"...... Before Roy Acuff the Grand Ol Opry was mostly string bands and fiddlers. He was actually the first vocal star, or maybe Uncle Dave Macon before him, but Country Music has been continually evolving since it's inception and will continue to do so. There's a lot of good country stuff out there if you just listen without a pre formed bias against it.... Most of the current acts have some "real?" country in their acts and do it quite well... I think some of the people who don't like it haven't progressed beyond three chords and maybe some of the new things are just to advanced for them and can't put up with a "fourth" chord in music... As for Toby Keith, I like him a lot. He's a fun artist and is carrying on in the same vein as Hank Jr. did (Who I like better than Hank Sr.)...... If you don't like new country, who cares?... Not me! I like the older stuff better too but I like a lot of the new things out there as well..........JH in Va.

Rick Schacter · Post by **Rick Schacter** » 10 Dec 2013 2:19 pm

Who said that songs have to have a lot of chords in order for them to be good? Sometimes it just makes them busy, not necessarily good.
Whether this song only has 3 chords or not, to my knowledge there isn't any song played on CMT right now that is as well crafted as this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf4_sFYm-II

A lot more depth than Honky Tonk Badonkadonk wouldn't you say?

Rick

Leslie Ehrlich · Post by **Leslie Ehrlich** » 10 Dec 2013 2:52 pm

Tony Glassman wrote:Today's "country" is just yesterday's southern rock.

Not quite. When I was a teenager back in the late 1970s I was heavily into southern rock (Skynyrd, Hatchet, Allman Bros., Outlaws, etc.). Southern rock sounds a lot heavier and more guitar oriented than today's 'new country' stuff.

When I think of traditional country music, it's the stuff that happened from the 1930s all the way to the end of the 1960s. After that there weren't very many artists that I cared to listen to.

Jack Hanson · Post by **Jack Hanson** » 10 Dec 2013 3:31 pm

Bet most guys here will agree this two chord song is is a classic. And it's definitely "Country."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNbW5reA_DY

There are guys in other genres who did okay with only one chord. To wit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnhI_ECOAK4

Sounds pretty good to me!

Dave Hopping · Post by **Dave Hopping** » 10 Dec 2013 3:45 pm

I'm pretty sure ol' Hank did it that way.

Rick Schacter · Post by **Rick Schacter** » 10 Dec 2013 4:17 pm

Jack Hanson wrote:Bet most guys here will agree this two chord song is is a classic. And it's definitely "Country."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNbW5reA_DY

There are guys in other genres who did okay with only one chord. To wit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnhI_ECOAK4

Sounds pretty good to me!

Those are both great songs!

Here's another great three chord song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nGGHf63Zqc

...and as far as I can tell, this song only uses one chord. One of the coolest guitar riffs, ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbI0cMyyw_M

Rick

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 14 Dec 2013 10:12 am

Like someone said above; during my working career I knew the melody to hundreds of songs, maybe more, but, I probably only knew the words to two or three.

In the early days of western-swing, the vocalist only existed to give the musicians a break during the job. A vocalist was an option in the contract.

Today, the words are everything....the music and the musicians are nothing.

Dave Hopping · Post by **Dave Hopping** » 14 Dec 2013 12:53 pm

Leslie Ehrlich wrote:
Tony Glassman wrote:Today's "country" is just yesterday's southern rock.
Not quite. When I was a teenager back in the late 1970s I was heavily into southern rock (Skynyrd, Hatchet, Allman Bros., Outlaws, etc.). Southern rock sounds a lot heavier and more guitar oriented than today's 'new country' stuff.

Quite so! Ever listen to Alabama's cover of "Sweet Home Alabama"?

Alan Tanner · Post by **Alan Tanner** » 15 Dec 2013 6:23 am

Gene Jones wrote:Like someone said above; during my working career I knew the melody to hundreds of songs, maybe more, but, I probably only knew the words to two or three.

In the early days of western-swing, the vocalist only existed to give the musicians a break during the job. A vocalist was an option in the contract.

Today, the words are everything....the music and the musicians are nothing.

This is true. It was about the music, and not the singer so much. Singing thru your nose, a plastic hat, torn pants and a wife beater shirt do not make you a country music crooner.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 15 Dec 2013 6:40 am

IMHO, most people write and play songs to make money, and little thought is ever given to the long-term appeal. It's always been like that...write one, sing one...move on to the (hopefully) next successful, money-making recording. I don't care for most of the new stuff because there's a formulaic sameness to the sound. Same musicians, same twangy-southern accents, same forgettable ho-hum lyrics and melodies. Say what you will about the old-guard singers, Price, Owens, Jones, Tubb, Young, Anderson, Pierce, Cash, Miller, Paycheck, Jennings, Nelson, and Haggard, at least they didn't sound alike - nor did the music behind them.

The times have just switched things. Used to be that country was the niche market, and top-40 rock/pop was the mainstream. Now, the (NCS) country is the mainstream, and rock is the niche market. $:\$

Joachim Kettner · Post by **Joachim Kettner** » 15 Dec 2013 8:09 am

Skip Edwards wrote:There's a quote that's been attributed to Don Henley, who, bemoaning the current state of affairs in country music has said - tongue firmly in cheek -

"If we had known it was going to come to this, we never would've formed the Eagles"

Or words to that effect...

I have read about Robert Plant saying something similar a few years ago, about the current state of Hard Rock.
Could it be they feel guilty?
In a Gram Parsons biography was an incident recalled by Chris Hillman where he excluded him fom a meeting for insulting them as he called their music bubblegum.
I like the Eagles most of the time, but they definety weren't Country. But what I think what they did is "keep on changing". I am not an artist myself, but I think real artists develop and grow.
The New Country sticks to a winning formula and that makes it uninteresting for me. But who can blame them? They have to pay the wages for everybody involved.
'Though certainly not Nashville Country, Dwight Yoakam's "Blame The Vain" was really creative with it's unusual production.

Mike Bowles · Post by **Mike Bowles** » 15 Dec 2013 12:47 pm

donnie is right its all about making money not lasting effects i dont buy these cds but if thats what you like go for it but i will stick to my older country.

Joe Miraglia · Post by **Joe Miraglia** » 15 Dec 2013 3:38 pm

WHAT is Country Music? What is Country? Country is all of us living under the same roof,no matter what country you live in.Why did people start calling what your calling Country music in the first place? It seems as if some of us are trying to divide us even when it comes to music. Write your congressman--maybe he can come with a better name to call it. To each his own. I like something old,new,borrowed,and blue when it comes to music.