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Paul Sutherland

 

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Post  Posted 11 Nov 2013 5:39 pm    
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Recently my Supro volume pot has been shorting and otherwise acting erratic. The pot is more than sixty years old so I decided I had to replace it. The steel was becoming unacceptable for professional use.

I had a new 250K Allen Bradley pot sitting around so I decided to make the switch and started soldering. I've spent all day trying to make this work properly. I've re-soldered connections multiple times and always the same result.

The problem is the steel is fairly quiet when I'm not touching it, but the moment I put my hands on the strings or the pickup it starts buzzing. It's not a real loud buzz, but it's noticeable to me.

Also, the tone pot, which I never use, now has a tremendous buzz when I start to back down the tone knob, and then shuts the guitar totally off when the tone knob is turned fully counter-clockwise. This is less of an issue to me because I leave the tone control set on full treble (full clockwise position.) In fact, I don't even have a knob on the tone pot stem. I'd just as soon remove the tone pot circuit entirely, but I tried that and the steel buzzed like crazy, so I put it back in for now.

This sounds like a grounding problem, but I can't see how I failed to reconnect everything just as it was before I removed the old pot.

Any suggestions and comments are welcomed.
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Tom Pettingill


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Post  Posted 11 Nov 2013 7:09 pm    
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Here is a previous discussion and wiring diagram that may be helpful troubleshooting it.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=1475708&sid=21893bc9df4196792a7f3c4eb8d9e0d0

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Paul Sutherland

 

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Placerville, California
Post  Posted 11 Nov 2013 7:44 pm    
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Thanks Tom. That's most helpful. Interestingly, that's not how my components were wired. I'll give this a try in the morning.
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Paul Sutherland

 

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Placerville, California
Post  Posted 11 Nov 2013 9:53 pm    
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I went ahead and re-soldered per the diagram and it works. Imagine that! I also took out the tone circuit and the steel works just fine without it.

I'll, of course, keep all the original components. But for right now I need a functioning lap steel and this thing meets my needs with no need for a tone control.

I use this steel for screaming blues, rock licks with an overdrive pedal. I feel a bit guilty in admitted that, but I get lots of favorable comments from band-mates and the public.
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Peter Jacobs


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Post  Posted 12 Nov 2013 5:56 am    
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Thanks for posting that diagram, Tom. I hadn't seen it before, and it's good info to hang onto.

I noticed on my 1964 Supro Jet Airliner that even though it is very quiet (as it should be, with the split pickup), there is a tiny bit of ground hum/buzz and no wire to the bridge.

I didn't think it would be necessary, since the pickup sits in the bridgeplate, but I tested it with a wire from pot casing to the bridge, and the last bit of buzz was completely gone. Has anyone else seen this?
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