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Topic: Anyone raise the e's with a pedal? |
Earl Yarbro
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Bowie, Texas, USA
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Posted 21 Jul 2003 10:48 am |
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| This seems like it might work better than a lever. How 'bout it? |
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Earnest Bovine
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Los Angeles CA USA
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 21 Jul 2003 12:29 pm
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Well, I'm sure no genius, but there are people here who are pretty close when it comes to tunings and pedal setups. I've never even heard of anyone who's doing that.
There must be a reason, don't you think?
If you think there's an advantage to it, please tell us about it!  |
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Bob Carlson
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Surprise AZ.
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Posted 21 Jul 2003 1:08 pm
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The one knee most everyone has as there LKL raises the E strings. The pedal most used with LKL is A. Can't see any advantage of having it as a floor. But i'm not that good of player either though so maybe someone else knows.
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C Dixon
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Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 21 Jul 2003 2:58 pm
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I see NO instance where raising the E's on a pedal would be equal to or superior to raising them on a knee lever.
Here is why. Raising the E's can be used with a number of other combinations. The following lists some of them:
F and A
F and B
F and A and B
F and RKR (lowering 2 and 9 to a C#)
F and A and B and RKL (lowering the 6th a whole tone 'splitting' with B)
carl [This message was edited by C Dixon on 21 July 2003 at 04:03 PM.] |
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Paul King
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Gainesville, Texas, USA
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Posted 21 Jul 2003 6:10 pm
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| Earl, I do have a pedal that raises the 4th string E. It is the C pedal that raises 4 and 5 that is common on most tunings. You maybe talking about the F lever that raises 4 and 8. I personally cannot see any advantage to having that pull on a pedal. I would tend to believe it would be a disadvantage to have that pull on a pedal instead of a lever. If you can make it work for you and it feels right for you I would say go ahead. I would think if you did change that pull to a pedal it would not be long before you put it back on a knee lever. |
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 21 Jul 2003 6:49 pm
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It's very common to go from A+B to A+F. You keep the A pedal down while you release the B pedal and engage the F lever (and move the bar). That would be hard to do if all three changes were on pedals. It's a very natural movement if the F lever is on LKL, though.
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Patrick Ickes
From:
Upper Lake, CA USA
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Posted 21 Jul 2003 8:03 pm
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I have that move on a Fender 400. It doesn't have knee levers, and I wanted that change.
I use pedal 1 for raising E's(F lever), pedal 2 for the "A" pedal, 3 for "B" pedal, 4 for "C" pedal, pedal 5 to lower E's(E lever), and pedal 6 for something or other lever that raised the 1st F# to G and something else that I can't remember.
I tune the same as a 10 string without the D and D#.
I don't use the volume pedal much and use both feet to work the pedals.
However, if it had Knee levers, I wouldn't recomend the E to F change on a pedal.
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Dean Dobbins
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Rome, Ilinois, U.S.A. * R.I.P.
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Posted 22 Jul 2003 6:33 am
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Everyone keeps saying LKL to raise the E's.
I raise mine with LKR (but then, I play the "Day" split).
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 22 Jul 2003 7:53 am
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I had an old Blanton S-10 about 30 years ago that I bought from Blackie Taylor. It had 4 floor pedals and no knee levers when I got it. Pedal 1 raised 4 & 8 to F and the other 3 pedals were the regular ABC pedals. I had Blackie change the 1st pedal to lower the G#'s to G and go ahead and add two knee levers for the lowers on 4 & 8 and the 2nd and 9th strings. I didn't start using the E's to F until around 1978. I don't think Rusty Young uses them to this day.
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Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 22 Jul 2003 8:58 am
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It only makes sense on a pedal if you can't put it on a knee lever. And then you end up, like Pat, using both feet on the pedals. I seem to remember setting up a 4-pedal Fender years ago with:
P1: both B's to C#
P2: both G# to A
P3: high E to F#, low E to D#
P4: both E's to F
Dean, you're on solid ground. For Day setups, LKR is the logical position.
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 22 Jul 2003 9:12 am
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Yes Dean,
Many who have the day setup reverse LKL and LKR. It is interesting to note however, that ther are a few who have the day setup and do not reverse them. As well as those who have the Emmons' setup and have the knee levers as you do.
The latter would blow my mind, but then my mind is not playing their guitars, so they can flat do what they "wont" to. And Jesus be with them when they do it.
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