One thing usefull for me would be a small chart showing ;
A few notes in notation
and then the fret string equivilents
and it's pitch relative to the piano middle C.
Obviously not for the whole of both necks.
But G & C in the treble clef
The C hash mark in between them
and F and C in the bass clef for a start.
Then I would be sure of where I am starting the process.
But ideally a full double staff scale with, off to the right, the PSG string / fret info.
I would not want to start really learning this without acurate starting references.
I am sure it exists somewhere but it ain't crossed my path so far.
Who out there reads music
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David and b0b, we're thinking the same thing. After I wrote all that crap above, I was riding around in my car today thinking about tunings, and I had the idea to start writing out my tunings in musical notation instead of just using letters. I think a lot of us play around with our tunings in handwritten charts or computer spreadsheets. I like to transpose E9, and C6/B6 into the key of C in my spreadsheet charts, because I am so much more familiar with C than E. Why not write out the tunings in musical notation in the key of C?
Then I came on here tonight and there is b0b's notation of the open E9 and C6 necks. I was just thinking of one big 10-note chord, but spreading it out the way b0b did is more readable. It's really more of a scale than a chord, especialy when you add in the pedals and knees. Being vaguely aware of guitar notation, I was thinking of everything as an octave higher.
Now the next step is to write out the notation of the tuning at the C fret in the key of C. And also add the notes you get with each pedal and knee at the C fret. Notation works out a little better for steel in C than in E. In C the root on the 8th string is middle C. So everything above that is in the treble clef range, and everything below it is in the bass clef range.
The next thing to do is to go up (or down) to the F fret and do the same thing, then the G fret. Then do Am at the C fret with the A pedal, and also at the G fret with the BC pedals, etc. That's a pretty good start for being able to read music in the key of C. Just writing out and playing around with your own tuning in notation will begin to get you familiar with how written music relates to your tuning. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by David Doggett on 25 May 2003 at 09:48 PM.]</p></FONT>
Then I came on here tonight and there is b0b's notation of the open E9 and C6 necks. I was just thinking of one big 10-note chord, but spreading it out the way b0b did is more readable. It's really more of a scale than a chord, especialy when you add in the pedals and knees. Being vaguely aware of guitar notation, I was thinking of everything as an octave higher.
Now the next step is to write out the notation of the tuning at the C fret in the key of C. And also add the notes you get with each pedal and knee at the C fret. Notation works out a little better for steel in C than in E. In C the root on the 8th string is middle C. So everything above that is in the treble clef range, and everything below it is in the bass clef range.
The next thing to do is to go up (or down) to the F fret and do the same thing, then the G fret. Then do Am at the C fret with the A pedal, and also at the G fret with the BC pedals, etc. That's a pretty good start for being able to read music in the key of C. Just writing out and playing around with your own tuning in notation will begin to get you familiar with how written music relates to your tuning. <FONT SIZE=1 COLOR="#8e236b"><p align=CENTER>[This message was edited by David Doggett on 25 May 2003 at 09:48 PM.]</p></FONT>