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Topic: Installing a 4th pedal/Franklin change? Who's done it? |
Robbie Bossert
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WESCOSVILLE,PA,U.S.A.
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Posted 3 Jun 2013 4:11 am |
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Hi Gang,
I would like to install the 4 pedal/Franklin change to my SD-10 Fessy. Who's already done it? How involved is it? I'd like to try it myself but I really don't want to open up a huge can of worms.
Robbie
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 3 Jun 2013 4:47 am
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I ordered my Fessy with the fourth pedal already installed (since switched its function), but I can't imagine it would be very hard to install if you get the parts (cross shaft, pedal stop, rear-apron bushing, bellcranks, pull rods, nylon tuning nuts) from Jerry. You would have to remove the metal strip on the back apron (remove screws and gently pry off), set the cross shaft in place at the pre-drilled holes in the aprons, " " pedal stop, tap in the bushing through the back apron to meet the cross shaft, and from there it's pretty much like changing pulls on an existing pedal or knee lever. This would be particularly easy in the "0" position to the outside of your A pedal(to the left as you sit at the guitar); could require a little more thinking if you put it to the inside of the C pedal, depending on your knee lever configuration.
Dan
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Robbie Bossert
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WESCOSVILLE,PA,U.S.A.
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Posted 3 Jun 2013 5:33 am
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Thanks Dan,
I was also considering changing my vert. knee to those changes. How possible would that be?
Robbie
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 3 Jun 2013 5:55 am
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Speaking for myself, I find I need the vertical to be as light as possible (especially today after throwing my back out yesterday!!!). I would think that to get the Franklin pedal changes not to be too heavy would be a lot of throw on the vertical. There is a lot of room on the Fessy for that, just depends how high you can handle lifting your leg.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 3 Jun 2013 6:49 am
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| Dan Beller-McKenna wrote: |
I ordered my Fessy with the fourth pedal already installed (since switched its function), but I can't imagine it would be very hard to install if you get the parts (cross shaft, pedal stop, rear-apron bushing, bellcranks, pull rods, nylon tuning nuts) from Jerry. You would have to remove the metal strip on the back apron (remove screws and gently pry off), set the cross shaft in place at the pre-drilled holes in the aprons, " " pedal stop, tap in the bushing through the back apron to meet the cross shaft, and from there it's pretty much like changing pulls on an existing pedal or knee lever. This would be particularly easy in the "0" position to the outside of your A pedal(to the left as you sit at the guitar); could require a little more thinking if you put it to the inside of the C pedal, depending on your knee lever configuration.
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Don't forget the pedal, maybe a longer rod that the pedals attach to in the pedal bar (don't know if Fessenden uses a long rod for the pedals to slide on to). Is the pedal bar pre-drilled for adding pedals? If not, you will have to drill any holes needed. It's really not very difficult if the guitar is pre-machined. If not, I would have someone that works on them to do it. I added a "zero" pedal to my Carter and it was painless because everything needed is already pre-machined on the guitar. I don't know if Fessenden pre-machined everything needed in advance.
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Howard Steinberg
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St. Petersburg, Florida , USA
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Posted 3 Jun 2013 6:51 am
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It's very easy. This was the first alteration of a steel that I've ever done. My guitar was set up so that I could attach the cross shaft without drilling into the side of the guitar. The most difficult part, on my guitar was installing the pedal on the pedal rack. If you lower your B's 1/2 step, you will need to have that lower in the second changer hole from the top (guitar upside down), in order that you can use the top hole for the whole step lower. If I was able to do this successfully, anyone can.
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 3 Jun 2013 6:57 am
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Doh! (Face plant)
yes, the pedal: you'll need to add the pedal. And my Fessy pedal bar is not pre-drilled for that. On the plus side, the pedals are all on individual axles, so, presumably, the pedal would come with its own axle and "block" (to separate it from the next pedal. |
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Howard Steinberg
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St. Petersburg, Florida , USA
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Posted 3 Jun 2013 1:27 pm
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With my Justice guitar the pedal was complete with the block and axle. The trick is finding where to drill the holes on the bottom of the pedal bar to attach he assembly. There is a tool that costs a few bucks that enables you to measure precisely for the correct placement of the holes. Perhaps someone knows what it's called. Also, I wouldn't put the franklin change on a vertical lever unless you lower the 4th and 8th strings with the opposite knee.
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