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Ulrich Sinn
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California, USA
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Posted 29 May 2013 5:25 pm |
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How do I play that correctly?
It is so high on my MSA that I have to step off the pedals, get on the ball of the foot and lift the heel so that I actually can reach it.
And get back on the right pedals in time of course...
Is there a better way to do that?
Thanks,
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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 29 May 2013 5:37 pm You won't believe what I saw on the way to the Forum.......
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I chanced to catch a clip on You Tube of Buddy Emmons going for that vertical pedal......
and pretty much operated it, much as you describe. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 29 May 2013 5:48 pm
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On most guitars it is possible to adjust the height of the lever. However I find it rather difficult to hit that lever if you are not also hitting a pedal. my answer is usually to back my heel up near the seat, and lift my whole leg
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects
Last edited by Lane Gray on 29 May 2013 10:16 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Bill Lowe
From:
Connecticut
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Keith Currie
From:
Shellbrook, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 29 May 2013 6:38 pm
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| On my franklin I am able to adjust it so I can use it with the pedals, I lower my 6st string a whole tone so I have it split with my B pedal, wouldnt be a lot of good if I had to lift my foot off the floor but I do see a lot of guys playing that way. |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 29 May 2013 6:59 pm
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Yeah I have splits on 5 and 10 so have to be able to operate the vertical whilst still holding down the A and B ... just a matter of adjusting things so that it works for you ...most guitars should have enough adjustability so you don't have to lift your knee too far to get the job done.
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08'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
94' Franklin Stereo D10 9+8
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 30 May 2013 6:58 am
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I have sat at alot of Steels over the years where I couldn't hit the Verticle lever while A+B were depressed, and it was not adjustable, or not adjustable enough.
On some, if it was adjustable enough, you could not close the lid of the case because it was sticking up too high.
imho, If you have a steel like this you need to make some kind of simple "extender".
I've seen some that clamp on with small C-clamp, slide on, Velcro on, hose-clamp on, wing-nut on, etc...
Sierra uses a removable Verticle which can be shaped for the individual players needs.
I just added a LKV to a Zum U12 and I think I am going to have to reconfigure it to be removable, if I want to close the case (I don't use cases much anymore, though... Just load it in the van and go).
Here is a pic of my Sierra S12U left knee zone showing the removable LKV:
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John Peay
From:
Cumming, Georgia USA
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Posted 30 May 2013 8:25 am
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
| I find it rather difficult to hit that lever if you are not also hitting a pedal. my answer is usually to back my heel up near the seat, and lift my whole leg |
That's how I do it, and now I feel better knowing that Lane does the same! Pete, that extender looks to be a great solution.
...I'm guessing b0b would have difficulty with that move until he's fully recovered... |
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Rocky Evangelisti
From:
Perth, Western Australia
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Posted 31 May 2013 2:29 am Vertical lever
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| I was able to purchase "extensions" to lower the height of the vertical knee levers for my Mullen Royal Precision from Mullen. Either half inch or 1 inch. The beauty of this is that the levers are horizontal and therefore, eliminating having to tilt the levers. Works great! |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 31 May 2013 2:29 pm
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No one has ever done it better than Joe Kline. You can adjust it to hang way down, and with a simple flick, it snaps back out of the way. No issues with closing the case! Go here, and scroll down to the bottom for a look at this very cool engineering!
http://julianwinston.com/music/the_kline_guitar.php |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 31 May 2013 4:09 pm
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Right John. The Kline vertical was the best design I have ever seen. I've often wondered why no one else picked up on it. Maybe Joe had a patent on it.
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Michael Johnstone
From:
Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 31 May 2013 7:24 pm
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+1 on the Kline. But other than that I found the best way to deal with that issue is make 'em yourself. That way it's sure to fit you like a glove. Alls you need is some aluminum bar stock from Home Depot,a few nutz & boltz,a vise,drill press,hacksaw,set of files & a Saturday afternoon. I wanted my 2 left knee verts to come in from opposite sides like Julian Tharp's setup and be able to hit either one or both but the short keyless Excel body prevented that. So I kind of simulated the feel and function of J.T.'s layout while still having both levers coming in from right to left.
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mike nolan
From:
Forest Hills, NY USA
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Posted 31 May 2013 10:39 pm
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| The Lamar vertical is similar to the Kline. The Williams is different as it folds away backwards, but works really well. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 1 Jun 2013 3:55 am
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Operating a vertical is usually done by raising your heel, whether the ball of your foot is on the pedals or on the floor. But it can also be done without your foot touching anything. Practice both ways, and you'll have an advantage ove players who only do it one way!  |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 1 Jun 2013 5:24 am
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What Donny said (as usual. Damn, if that guy ain't sensible).
I reflected on it some, and I tend to use whatever method suits my present position (and doesn't pose an obstacle for the next one).
It's kinda like catching a ball; you don't think about HOW to move your arm, you put yer hand where the ball is coming.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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