Who Plays Steel for Steve Earle
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- Chris LeDrew
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I want to qualify my last post by saying that Chris Masterson sounds fine to me on this clip. I was referring more to the alt country genre in general than to Chris' playing.
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I'm 99% sure he said Ryan Lochte was coming over (olympic swimmer, reality show guy). He was also a guest on the 4/22 show, which would be a pretty good clueFred Glave wrote:At the end of the performance, David Letterman comes up on stage and tells the steel player to bring his "Thingy" (pointing to the steel) up to his house because (somebody) is coming over. I couldn't hear who's name he said.
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Americana on the steel
I came to the steel late (later 50's) after many years of playing banjo in bluegrass bands (insert Doug Baumier comment here:_______:)). I had never played an amplified instrument before, and never with drums. After a couple of years in the woodshed I ventured out and started playing steel in an Americana band, which has turned out to be an excellent way to get both feet wet playing steel with other people, on stage, in a relatively low-pressure fashion. I've been able to focus on developing fluidity in my moves, intonation and vibrato, playing in a variety of keys, and generally becoming comfortable being a contributing musician on the pedal steel. I liken it to the job of color commentator in the sports broadcasting business - creating textures and moments in the music that are distinctive and add to the overall quality of the music. It is certainly not as technically demanding as covering the steel parts in a more conventional country or swing band but like everything else musical, it can be done well or badly. For those who are new or new-ish to the steel, I highly recommend hooking up with an Americana outfit as a low-pressure way to develop your confidence, tone, intonation, and adaptability playing the steel with others.
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Americana is really what drew me back to the instrument and made me want to learn it, but some of the comments here led me to think about it in a much more critical way than I had before.
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that a site full of musicians would tend to judge a lot of music on the technical skill of the players, but I hadn't really thought of Americana in those terms before. I just like the sound and feel of it. It speaks to me, whether it's full of great playing or not. To me, that's not what it's about.
For better or worse, I grew up in New York City and wasn't heavily exposed to a lot of the classic country that's popular with lots of the members here. When I was a teenager, I was big into a lot of what I call Asylum music, Linda Ronstadt, Eagles (the earlier stuff), Jackson Browne, Mike Nesmith, Flying Burrito Brothers, Neil Young, Stephen Stills and also things like Pure Prairie League, the New Riders and Commander Cody. I'm open to almost all kinds of music, though, and I respect other peoples' musical tastes. One of the benefits I've had from being on this site is learning more about a lot of great classic and traditional country. (I've discovered I have a liking for western swing, in particular):)
Anyway, I know better than to think I'm ever going to change anyone's mind about what they like or don't like, and I honestly hate arguing about music, because it's about as subjective as anything I can think of. But I'll stand by this type of music even if some people don't see it as anything more than a refuge for second-rate players. Every genre has those.
I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that a site full of musicians would tend to judge a lot of music on the technical skill of the players, but I hadn't really thought of Americana in those terms before. I just like the sound and feel of it. It speaks to me, whether it's full of great playing or not. To me, that's not what it's about.
For better or worse, I grew up in New York City and wasn't heavily exposed to a lot of the classic country that's popular with lots of the members here. When I was a teenager, I was big into a lot of what I call Asylum music, Linda Ronstadt, Eagles (the earlier stuff), Jackson Browne, Mike Nesmith, Flying Burrito Brothers, Neil Young, Stephen Stills and also things like Pure Prairie League, the New Riders and Commander Cody. I'm open to almost all kinds of music, though, and I respect other peoples' musical tastes. One of the benefits I've had from being on this site is learning more about a lot of great classic and traditional country. (I've discovered I have a liking for western swing, in particular):)
Anyway, I know better than to think I'm ever going to change anyone's mind about what they like or don't like, and I honestly hate arguing about music, because it's about as subjective as anything I can think of. But I'll stand by this type of music even if some people don't see it as anything more than a refuge for second-rate players. Every genre has those.
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I've played 6 string in bands for years, both covers and originals, from disco to country. Few if any would consider me a great player technically, but I know I can make music people enjoy. That's what it's all about, as far as I'm concerned.
The comments here about "amateurish", etc. are why the only time I feel self-conscious on stage is in front of other musicians. When I'm listening to music, I'm listening to what a musician contributes to the sound. I appreciate great talent, but it's secondary to the quality of music they're making.
Oh, and I'm a huge fan of alt-country AND classic country.
The comments here about "amateurish", etc. are why the only time I feel self-conscious on stage is in front of other musicians. When I'm listening to music, I'm listening to what a musician contributes to the sound. I appreciate great talent, but it's secondary to the quality of music they're making.
Oh, and I'm a huge fan of alt-country AND classic country.
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Really don't think any pedal steel player in an alt-country genre feels "entitled" at all. Most playing this obscure instrument (at which even the greatest to ever live sometimes struggled to make a living doing only this) I'd venture to say would be very grateful for the opportunity. Kind of a generality either way. I think this difference of opinion comes down to the kind of steel playing that flips your own unique switch.
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Hey Chris Ivey,
He was there and you were not. Your Envy is obvious, and won't help you get there. Grow up and get over it.
He was there and you were not. Your Envy is obvious, and won't help you get there. Grow up and get over it.
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