Rhino Guard instead of using Tolex on an amp?

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Post by Kevin Hatton »

It looks like it takes at least double the amount of time to apply as opposed to Tolex. Two coats.
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Post by Jim Lindsey (Louisiana) »

I'm really impressed with how easy and quick this stuff is to work with. Even working slowly and gently on the cabinet as I did, the first coat took between five and ten minutes to apply. I thought it'd take hours for it to dry, but I was in for a pleasant surprise ... it was actually completely dry to the touch and ready for the second coat within 15 minutes. I was going to apply the second coat right then, but as Fate would have it, I didn't get to because I suddenly had to leave to go somewhere and didn't get back home until well after sundown. So, I simply applied the second coat today.

Second coat took actually less than five minutes to apply (and that's still working slowly and gently with no hurry). I'm guessing that the whole two coat application process would have taken no longer than about 40 minutes total had I done everything at once instead of stopping to go somewhere. :)

Honestly, I probably could have done only one coat. Just the single coat looked great and was really tough, but I elected to put the recommended second coat on and I'm glad I did ... WOW ... with the second coat it looks even better than a brand new Tolex covering.

I'm also impressed with the cleanup ... this stuff is water based and if you clean the roller right after use while it's wet it washes totally clean in literally seconds, looks brand new again and ready for the next use. I also like the fact that DuraTex is odorless. Even though you have to use it in a well ventilated area, there's no odor from it (unlike some chemicals that nearly strangle you even when used outside).

As soon as I finish a few other things around the house today, I'm going to reassemble the amp and put up a photo of the finished project. :)
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Post by Buddy Castleberry »

jim that looks good and thats about the look you will get from rino.but the linex dont look as thick because it goes on hot
linex was charging me $35.00 for two cabinets
the first ones i did with rino i throwed them away
but i have done six sets with linex already.
one set that i had done was for john hughey ,
i was supposed give them to him the same week that he passed away,he seen mine and had to have a set .
thats what i use now
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Post by Jim Lindsey (Louisiana) »

I'm going to take the amp back outside in the positive light so I can get a good photo, but here's a quick on I took with my phone showing my other Nashville still with the Tolex versus the Nashville (on the right) with the DuraTex ...

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1986 Mullen D-10 with 8 & 7 (Dual Bill Lawrence 705 pickups each neck)
Two Peavey Nashville 400 Amps (with a Session 500 in reserve) - Yamaha SPX-90 II
Peavey ProFex II - Yamaha R-1000 Digital Reverb - Ross Time Machine Digital Delay - BBE Sonic Maximizer 422A
ProCo RAT R2DU Dual Distortion - Korg DT-1 Pro Tuner (Rack Mounted) - Furman PL-8 Power Bay
Goodrich Match-Bro by Buddy Emmons - BJS Steel Bar (Dunlop Finger Picks / Golden Gate Thumb Picks)
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Post by Jim Lindsey (Louisiana) »

I hope it shows well, the afternoon sun is pretty glarish at the moment, but here is an outdoor photo of the refinished amp ...

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Even though the Tolex is good on my other Nashville and not damaged, I'm tempted to strip the Tolex from it and refinish it as well. I'm really pleased at the outcome and the ease of use with this DuraTex stuff. A total of $19.95 spent and I not only refinished one Nashville, but there's more than enough left to do another amp (possibly two). :D
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Two Peavey Nashville 400 Amps (with a Session 500 in reserve) - Yamaha SPX-90 II
Peavey ProFex II - Yamaha R-1000 Digital Reverb - Ross Time Machine Digital Delay - BBE Sonic Maximizer 422A
ProCo RAT R2DU Dual Distortion - Korg DT-1 Pro Tuner (Rack Mounted) - Furman PL-8 Power Bay
Goodrich Match-Bro by Buddy Emmons - BJS Steel Bar (Dunlop Finger Picks / Golden Gate Thumb Picks)
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Post by Roger Crawford »

Jim, after seeing the pictures, and before reading your last post, I told myself that you would be doing your other amp. Good looking job. Where do you buy that stuff?
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Post by Jim Lindsey (Louisiana) »

Hi, Roger, here's a URL to the page I ordered it from:

http://store.acrytech.com/Speaker-Cabin ... Black.html

I've no doubt that the Rhino and Linex products are extremely good and I'd be very pleased to use either one of them, but I chose the DuraTex because of the price difference. I was very skeptical as to how well it would work, but I'm really happy with the end result. :D

Thanks, everyone, for watching this little project. It's been fun to do ... now I'm off to strip down the other Nashville and DuraTex it as well. :)
1986 Mullen D-10 with 8 & 7 (Dual Bill Lawrence 705 pickups each neck)
Two Peavey Nashville 400 Amps (with a Session 500 in reserve) - Yamaha SPX-90 II
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ProCo RAT R2DU Dual Distortion - Korg DT-1 Pro Tuner (Rack Mounted) - Furman PL-8 Power Bay
Goodrich Match-Bro by Buddy Emmons - BJS Steel Bar (Dunlop Finger Picks / Golden Gate Thumb Picks)
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Looks Great!

Post by John Peay »

Jim, that looks great....how much to do mine? :)
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Post by Dale Rottacker »

Jim, it looks all sparkly and new...Do you know if this is available for blond amps as well?...yea, I know, I could look it up myself!!!...
Anyhow, awesome job!!!
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Post by Lee Warren »

Hi Jim,
Nice job there!

Based on your success, I bought some DuraTex and am about to start my own project.

My question is: did you water down the coating, and if so, how much water did you add?

Thanks for the input!
Lee
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Post by Jim Lindsey (Louisiana) »

Hi, Lee ... I added no water at all. Just rolled it on (but I made sure the cabinet was sanded well and free of sawdust). I really love the way it came out and it seems like it's going to be more durable than Tolex. :-)

One thing extra I did do was shoot a real thin coat of flat black on it before rolling it on. I was unsure how well it would cover, but it was unnecessary to shoot the coat of flat black; this stuff covers beautifully with no problem at all.

Jim
1986 Mullen D-10 with 8 & 7 (Dual Bill Lawrence 705 pickups each neck)
Two Peavey Nashville 400 Amps (with a Session 500 in reserve) - Yamaha SPX-90 II
Peavey ProFex II - Yamaha R-1000 Digital Reverb - Ross Time Machine Digital Delay - BBE Sonic Maximizer 422A
ProCo RAT R2DU Dual Distortion - Korg DT-1 Pro Tuner (Rack Mounted) - Furman PL-8 Power Bay
Goodrich Match-Bro by Buddy Emmons - BJS Steel Bar (Dunlop Finger Picks / Golden Gate Thumb Picks)
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Post by Lee Warren »

Hi Jim,
Thanks for the insight!
I'm hoping to get the first coat on this evening.
If I don't completely foul it up, I may post a couple of pictures ... =)
Lee
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Post by Jim Lindsey (Louisiana) »

Looking forward to those photos of your project! :D
1986 Mullen D-10 with 8 & 7 (Dual Bill Lawrence 705 pickups each neck)
Two Peavey Nashville 400 Amps (with a Session 500 in reserve) - Yamaha SPX-90 II
Peavey ProFex II - Yamaha R-1000 Digital Reverb - Ross Time Machine Digital Delay - BBE Sonic Maximizer 422A
ProCo RAT R2DU Dual Distortion - Korg DT-1 Pro Tuner (Rack Mounted) - Furman PL-8 Power Bay
Goodrich Match-Bro by Buddy Emmons - BJS Steel Bar (Dunlop Finger Picks / Golden Gate Thumb Picks)
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Post by Len Amaral »

Was in Home Depot this week and there was a fellow demonstrating a Rhino like covering for decks, or any other surface that has high foot traffic. He said the type of roller you use determines the texture of the finish. Good selection of colors also.

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Post by Lee Warren »

Hey Jim,
I've posted my project in a new thread: 'DuraTex amp refinishing project'

The DuraTex experience was great and I'm so happy with the results.
Thanks for your insight and inspiration!
Lee
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