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Topic: What is the best tunning and strings for country .? |
Richard Lahr
From: Gulf Cove Florida, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2013 6:07 am
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I am new to all this so excuse my ignorance, I need opinions.
I have been pickin my dobro in open G so thats really all I know.
I have a 6 string lap steel just got it, with .35/42/69/90/1.15/1.40 strings on it. Not really sure what tuning those are for and what music style they fit.
What are the best strings and tuning for country music?
I read for C6 tuning > is that correct tuning?
Thankx for any input and advice for this newbe
015/017/022/026/DY30/DY36 ?? is that correct?
sort of confusing but want to start on the correct track
Good on line lessons series with Troy Brenningmeyer I am going to give it a shot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwOFQ7rGS44
Thanks for any input and advice for this newbe  |
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Bill McCloskey
From: Nanuet, NY
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Posted 6 Apr 2013 6:32 am
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Richard,
I was where you are about 10 years ago. Played dobro, and bottle neck before that and then I got a steel. It took me a long time to make the adjustment: it is not a dobro, it is a completely different instrument: different sound, attack, everything. It took me a long time to adjust my finger style which was used to digging in.
If I've learned one thing: learn C6. So much stems off of that. But don't get frustrated. Your usual tricks won't work. You'll need to be open to a new playing experience. |
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Richard Lahr
From: Gulf Cove Florida, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2013 6:49 am
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Bill McCloskey wrote: |
Richard,
I was where you are about 10 years ago. Played dobro, and bottle neck before that and then I got a steel. It took me a long time to make the adjustment: it is not a dobro, it is a completely different instrument: different sound, attack, everything. It took me a long time to adjust my finger style which was used to digging in.
If I've learned one thing: learn C6. So much stems off of that. But don't get frustrated. Your usual tricks won't work. You'll need to be open to a new playing experience. |
AMEN to that..I am ready and willing and have the time and hopefully the patience!! |
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Ray Montee
From: Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 6 Apr 2013 12:33 pm Here's one option......................
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You might want to drop into the jerrybyrd-fanclub.com site and go at once to the Jerry's Music page and listen to all of the many flavors of steel guitar other than Dobro.
Just a tho't. |
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Jack Aldrich
From: Washington, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2013 1:20 pm
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One difference between Dobro and steel is blocking with the left hand. It's a no-no for steel guitar. I have to remind myself all the time not to lift my left hand, unless I'm going to hammer on for an old time Hawaiian song. Blocking is done with either the palm or a finger of the right hand. - Jack _________________ Jack Aldrich
Carter & ShoBud D10's
D8 & T8 Stringmaster
Rickenbacher B6
3 Resonator guitars
Asher Alan Akaka Special SN 6
Canopus D8 |
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Bill McCloskey
From: Nanuet, NY
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Posted 6 Apr 2013 1:36 pm
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" I have to remind myself all the time not to lift my left hand, "
Not sure I agree with that. Jerry Byrd talks about tipping the bar up and muting with the left hand to do single string work. For me, the difference is more in the right hand than the left. |
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Richard Lahr
From: Gulf Cove Florida, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2013 1:43 pm kEEP THE REPLYS COMIN !
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GOOD POINTS... APPRECIATED THE FEED.. KEEP IT COMING |
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Stephen Baker
From: Lancashire, UK
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Posted 6 Apr 2013 3:01 pm
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Jerry Byrd talks about tipping the bar up and muting with the left hand to do single string work. |
I mute behind the bar with my left pinky and ring fingers when tipping the bar. If I'm playing say string 3 or strings 3 and 4 I move the bar towards my body, tip it to mute strings 5 and 6 etc. and mute strings 1 and 2 with my left middle finger. Also when I want to completely kill a note dead, like at the end of Speedy West's solo on “I'll never be free”, I'll lift the bar and mute with both hands. Steve |
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Wayne D. Clark
From: Montello Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 7 Apr 2013 4:53 pm
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From the 50's & 60"s Lap Steel. Have you tried top to bottom. E9th [E, B, G#, F#, D, B, G#, E] OR E7th [E, B, G#, E, D, B, G#, E] or C#m 7th [E, B, G#, E, C# B, G# E] I call this E7th modified. I used E7th most of the time. |
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Richard Lahr
From: Gulf Cove Florida, USA
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Posted 7 Apr 2013 5:00 pm
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Wayne D. Clark wrote: |
From the 50's & 60"s Lap Steel. Have you tried top to bottom. E9th [E, B, G#, F#, D, B, G#, E] OR E7th [E, B, G#, E, D, B, G#, E] or C#m 7th [E, B, G#, E, C# B, G# E] I call this E7th modified. I used E7th most of the time. |
I have a 6 string !! |
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Wayne D. Clark
From: Montello Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 7 Apr 2013 7:58 pm
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I did also Richard at the time, from '45 to '52. in 53 I purchased D8 Stringmaster. But I played a lot of Hank Snow and Hank Williams, & Edie Arnold stuff at that time, and Used E7th on the 6 string National. I'll find the 6th string tuning I used back then, but heading to bed right now. |
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier
From: Quebec, Canada
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Posted 8 Apr 2013 5:10 am
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C6 with high E, with a 6 strings C6 you can play almost any thing, you can find the strings on the forum store. C6 is hard at first but when you get it its powerfull. |
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David Mason
From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 8 Apr 2013 7:13 am
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If you poke along the top of this site - - LINKS - you will find a mind-boggling set of interconnected everythingness that will require at least 3 or 4 lifetimes to ge... well, first off, on SGF's Founder (and minor deity) b0b's pages, a very handy string gauge chart:
http://www.b0b.com/infoedu/gauges.htm
there may be some adjustments made for scale length, usage and such, but you might as well cut 'n' paste it print up dozens, hang them everywhere, you will refer to it time and again over the years. |
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Richard Lahr
From: Gulf Cove Florida, USA
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Posted 8 Apr 2013 7:28 am
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David Mason wrote: |
If you poke along the top of this site - - LINKS - you will find a mind-boggling set of interconnected everythingness that will require at least 3 or 4 lifetimes to ge... well, first off, on SGF's Founder (and minor deity) b0b's pages, a very handy string gauge chart:
http://www.b0b.com/infoedu/gauges.htm
there may be some adjustments made for scale length, usage and such, but you might as well cut 'n' paste it print up dozens, hang them everywhere, you will refer to it time and again over the years. |
THX Saw that page.. very handy... I printed it out..
Think I can figure this all out! |
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Tim Whitlock
From: Colorado, USA
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George Rout
From: St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 9 Apr 2013 3:39 pm
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Well Richard, I have to my two cents worth in for the old original tunings used by thousands of players in the 30's and 40's and 50's and still used by this ole guy today amd a few others!!!!
It's A Major Low Bass tuning; hi to lo, EC#AEAE
OR the High Bass tuning: E C# A E C# A This latter one is the same as your Dobro tuning, just two notes up.
You also have the option of A6, in which the 4th string is rased from the E to F#.
I still teach locally in these tunings (as well as E, E7th and your Dobro D.
Welcome to the lap steel. I've been playing since 1948 (and still learning) and having tons of fun.
Geo _________________ http://georgerout.com
"I play in the A Major tuning. It's fun to learn and so easy to play. It's as old as the hills....like me" |
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Richard Lahr
From: Gulf Cove Florida, USA
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Posted 9 Apr 2013 3:39 pm string choice
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I keep reading C6 is Hawaiian tining. Country "pedal " is E9.
I play the Dobro open G, some say that tuning and a volume pedal is a great place to start on the lap
DGBDGB ?
then there is D : DADF#AD or E: EDEG#BE
Seeing I am a beginner at this all but do like country, do ya'll have any opinion on this?
I am realllllly glad I found this site...the replys have been gr8...thank you all |
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Ron Landis
From: Arkansas, USA
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Posted 9 Apr 2013 6:07 pm
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I'm pretty new myself and find myself in the same situation going from dobro to 6 string lap steel and now to 8 string console. I'm struggling with the C6 tuning myself, but using the same strings, I retuned to A6 and everything seemed to come together rather naturally. It seems to work really well for Western Swing. I use E7 for my other neck and works well for country and blues. |
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