Need a Measurement From Your Steels

Jon Light · Post by **Jon Light** » 31 May 2012 12:36 pm

I need the measurement from the center of the output jack on the end plate to the top of the deck. Does not need to be micrometer accurate. Closest 1/4" will do.

I have 5 PSG's here and each is quite different. I'd love to get the measurement on as many makes as possible and info such as "the **** steel guitar is 3 1/2" on the earlier models but changed to 4" after 1985...." gets bonus points and plaid stamps.

Thanks in advance for your data.

Chris Boyd · Post by **Chris Boyd** » 31 May 2012 12:44 pm

Jon.. On both of my Buds.. Professional and Pro III roundfront,it is 3-1/8 from the middle of the output jack to the top of the E9 deck....

Ken Pippus · Post by **Ken Pippus** » 31 May 2012 12:48 pm

Carter D-10, the step from one neck to the other is centered directly over the jack. 2" to E9 deck, 1-3/4" to C6.

What are you building?

KP

Jon Light · Post by **Jon Light** » 31 May 2012 12:58 pm

For this project (for which I've now got all parts ordered or in house)

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=226142

I am investigating then practicality of providing the option to plug the box directly into the jack in order to put the tone control right by your picking hand (wah!). It requires a stabilizing arm which is being a design challenge due to the variety of different placements of the jack.

Thanks, gents. Keep 'em coming, folks!

Douglas Schuch · Post by **Douglas Schuch** » 31 May 2012 5:14 pm

Zumsteel Anniversary U-12, 1 3/8 inches to center of jack.

Frank Montmarquet · Post by **Frank Montmarquet** » 31 May 2012 6:24 pm

Sierra U-12 2 1/2 to deck with arm rest, 2 3/4 to neck.

Dick Sexton · Post by **Dick Sexton** » 31 May 2012 6:33 pm

Derby SD10, 1 3/4 inches...
Marlen S10, 1 3/4 inches...

CrowBear Schmitt · Post by **CrowBear Schmitt** » 31 May 2012 10:33 pm

on my Zum D10 just under 2"
the jack is smack dab in the middle - between the tuning windows

Jon Light · Post by **Jon Light** » 1 Jun 2012 5:07 am

Thanks for the further additions. I welcome more.

My own info:

ShoBud S-12 (Pro 1)
--2 3/8"

Emmons SD-12 p/p
--1 7/8" to back neck
--2 1/8" to front neck

Fessenden SD-12 (2006)
--3" to back deck .......positioned under back deck; presumably would be centered between necks on a true D-12
This is way down near the bottom of the end plate. I'd be interested in getting more responses on Fessies as to whether these are just eyeballed or if they follow a template.

Carter SD-12 (1998)
--1 3/4" back
--2 1/4" front

BMI S-10 (1983)
--1 1/2"....... positioned on back apron

Lane Gray · Post by **Lane Gray** » 1 Jun 2012 5:14 am

Right now I'm a couple hundred miles from my guitars (Zum and MSA), but remember that MSA put the output on the rear apron, not the endplate.

Michael Maddex · Post by **Michael Maddex** » 1 Jun 2012 10:35 am

Jon Light wrote:. . . I am investigating then practicality of providing the option to plug the box directly into the jack . . .

Nice to see you back and posting again, Jon.

In the FWIW department, I recently built a little black box to control the volume on a guitar with a pickup, jack and no controls. It plugs directly into the guitar and then the cord plugs into it. My feeling is that where the plug comes out of the box is a weak point in the design. If I were to do it again, I would try to come up with a design where I could use a short cord to the guitar and figure out some sort of a clamp/bracket to secure the box to the guitar.

The guitar in this case is a metal-body, square-neck tri-cone. Like all those hyphens?

Anyway, here's a photo:

The left photo is the top of the box; the right photo is to bottom with the back removed.

HTH. Good luck with your project.

Jon Light · Post by **Jon Light** » 1 Jun 2012 11:03 am

Hi Michael. I have done similar projects in the past and I agree---especially if your guitar has a tight fitting jack it can feel a bit hairy, pulling the box/plug out of the jack. It is a mechanical weak link and is the likely first point of failure, if and when....
I've got a slightly different approach in mind (which, forgive me, I will demonstrate if and when I use this option).
But one certainty---this 'feature', if I use it, will be supplemental. The primary implementation of the box will indeed be as a leg clip-on with female jacks. I'm being delayed by a back-order but I expect to have some pictures to show soon.
Thanks for sharing that, Michael. I appreciate it.

Why do I suddenly have an urge to go to Jack-In-The-Box for a burger?

Clete Ritta · Post by **Clete Ritta** » 1 Jun 2012 5:30 pm

Carter D10: 2" and 1 3/4" split same as above.
Fessenden U12: 3 1/4"
Mullen SD10 (narrow): 2 1/4" and 2 1/2" split

Clete

Jan Ekenberg · Post by **Jan Ekenberg** » 2 Jun 2012 2:47 am

Rains SD10 (2006): 2 1/4" and 2" (split as above).

Darrell Grigsby · Post by **Darrell Grigsby** » 2 Jun 2012 4:34 am

ShowPro-SD-10

Distance is split, as top is stepped. 2-13/16 and

3-1/16

Darrell Grigsby

Larry Rafferty · Post by **Larry Rafferty** » 2 Jun 2012 7:47 am

On The Pedalmaster the input jack is not on the end plate.
It is on the back (chair side). It is 2 3/4" from the end plate and 2 3/4" down from bottom of arm pad.
The Mullen Pre RP is 2 3/4" down from the end plate. The Dekley is 2 5/8" from the top of the end plate

Michael Maddex · Post by **Michael Maddex** » 2 Jun 2012 8:33 am

Whoops! Forgot to answer the original question

On my Fender 400 distance is 3 3/8"

Top edge is rounded over and set back a bit from the frame

Jon Light · Post by **Jon Light** » 2 Jun 2012 10:04 am

I'm appreciating the contributions to my database. I'm getting a good picture. I welcome continued input.

Joe A. Camacho · Post by **Joe A. Camacho** » 2 Jun 2012 11:19 am

ZB's input jack is under the guitar.

Steve Reynolds · Post by **Steve Reynolds** » 2 Jun 2012 3:24 pm

2009 MSA Legend D10
E9 - 1 1/2
C6 - 1 1/4
1999 LaGarritt D10
E9 - 2 5/8
C6 - 2 3/8
Steve R.

Bob Kagy · Post by **Bob Kagy** » 3 Jun 2012 10:14 am

2009 GFI D10

2 1/2" to top of E9th deck

Jon Light · Post by **Jon Light** » 3 Jun 2012 1:44 pm

And again, thank you for the responses. I knew I'd get enough info to work with.

Matthew Schwartz · Post by **Matthew Schwartz** » 4 Apr 2013 5:50 am

My Stage One is 1 3/4"

Jeff Scott Brown · Post by **Jeff Scott Brown** » 4 Apr 2013 6:03 am

GFI Ultra S-10 is 1 11/16".

Adrian Wang · Post by **Adrian Wang** » 4 Apr 2013 6:51 am

Fessenden S10 3 inches

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