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William Gaskin

 

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Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 16 Mar 2013 6:36 pm    
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Can anyone give me some info on fender double neck pedal steel i might be buying one looking for info on value and general information

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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 16 Mar 2013 8:36 pm    
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There are basically two completely different ranges of pedal steel from Fender. The originals worked with cables. The more recent ones were made by Sho-Bud and have normal rods. I have examples of both. The older cable models have a warm sound, but the ones made by Sho-Bud have a harsher tone, similar to a Telecaster, and nothing like Sho-Bud's own models.

There are people who swear by cable models. I've had nothing but trouble with them.
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William Gaskin

 

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Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2013 2:08 am    
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This is supposed to be from the 60s it is a cable model but im not sure on how to tell the year either
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Nathan Hofer

 

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Columbia, Missouri
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2013 4:41 am    
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Hi William,

I am nowhere near as knowledgeable as many folks on the forum, but there are a few things you can look for. One of the easiest way to get a rough idea of date is to look at what kind of pedals and pickup the guitar has. The earliest models had stamped chrome pedals (they are flat), sometime in the early 60s (1963?) Fender switched to cast black pedals (they are curved). The earlier models had the jazzmaster square pickup, later models the skinny jaguar style pickup. There are, of course, some transitional models that have a mix match of early/late parts.

I remember reading once that there were actually three styles of chrome pedals, so if it's an early model you might be able to get more precise dating ...
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2013 5:49 am    
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A double neck cable job could either be a Model 1000 (a double-eight) or a Model 2000 (double 10). In good shape, and if everything is there, the D8 generally brings $750-$1050, and the D10 brings about $900-$1200. None of these came with knee levers from the factory, so many have been hacked up to add ersatz levers. These are simple, but big and heavy guitars, not well suited to modern setups. They can be fun to play and have their own sound and personality, but I would not recommend them for the average beginner, as it takes a certain mindset to play without levers. (Most beginners want to do all the fancy moves and have all the latest pedals, and they're just not there on these guitars.)
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William Gaskin

 

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Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2013 6:33 am    
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Thanks for the help guys im just buying this guitar to have i play a d10 emmons normally
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Jay Fagerlie


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Lotus, California, USA
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2013 6:44 am    
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Old Fender pedal steel + old Fender tube amp

=

the ultimate tone and vibe

IMHO
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2013 6:58 am    
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Michael Yahl is working on (and may have available by now) a drop-in arrangement to add levers without drilling holes in the guitar
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Jay Fagerlie


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Lotus, California, USA
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2013 7:17 am    
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We need to start sending Michael emails- I've been waiting over a year now.

I think it would be a good idea to gather up everyone that wants the knee lever kits and approach him so it will be -$$$- worth it to him to make them available....

Count me in for 2 L and 2 R

Jay
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Nathan Hofer

 

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Columbia, Missouri
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2013 7:37 am    
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I'm with you Jay! I'd be in for 2 knees on the left right away.
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Jay Fagerlie


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Lotus, California, USA
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2013 7:44 am    
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so shall we start a topic for it?
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Larry Baker

 

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Columbia, Mo. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2013 8:09 am    
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Nathan, We need to get together sometime. Can't believe I haven't heard of you before. Are you new to Columbia? Larry Baker
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Nathan Hofer

 

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Columbia, Missouri
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2013 8:29 am    
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Hi Larry,

Would love to get together, I will PM you my contact info. I am new(ish) to Columbia. Been here for about a year and a half. I am a professor at Mizzou, which is how I support my PSG addiction. Very Happy

And Jay, yes! Let's start a new topic on the knee levers.

Apologies to William for hijacking his thread!

Nate
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Alan Brookes


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Brummy living in Southern California
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2013 10:08 am    
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Basil Henriques has put knee levers on his.
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Michael Yahl


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Troy, Texas!
Post  Posted 17 Mar 2013 10:11 am    
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I've caught these posts and posted an update:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=2068655#2068655

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