Question about Emmons Fat Back P/P

Michael McGee · Post by **Michael McGee** » 8 Sep 2001 11:37 am

Mine is a fatback. Serial number 2002. Absolutely wonderful guitar.

Mike McGee

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 8 Sep 2001 8:27 pm

FATBACKS FOREVER!!!!
Bobbe--P-P-- # 1554-D

John Lacey · Post by **John Lacey** » 9 Sep 2001 6:51 am

Bobbe, maybe this should be aimed at Jay Dee, but when I ran into him some years back he suggested getting a '68-69 model of Emmons. Any definitive reason why?

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 9 Sep 2001 9:29 am

Yes John, The advantage of the '68-69 is weight,pedal spacing (if you like the wider)and the scarcity of the '69 model,(only 53 built). The 68 and69 had a wood pedal stop, not metal like the 70 up models. Some folks like this and call it an advantage. The rest of us prefer a slight more weight with a stronger body. Most folks prefer the closer modern pedal spacing of the later guitars.J.D Maness prefers the earlier. I love them all. Obviously ,fatbacks were built from the 1300 numbers to at least the 2000 numbers,with the cut up back also being built along with them in much lesser quanitys. The differences in all these great guitars were slight and any changes made during manufacture were neither good nor bad, just different.ALL sounded incredable!
Bobbe
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Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 9 Sep 2001 9:37 am

Several years ago , I sold J.D. numbers 1199-D and # 1215-D.I know that he used these for several years and has possibly sold one of them by now.
Bobbe

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 9 Sep 2001 1:39 pm

Bobbe,,,as I mentioned mine is serial # 1399
It looks like a metal strip going along the
length of the apron,,I cant really tell as it
is covered with "flacking"
Do you have a record of those guitars that were mfg in 1969??,,,I would be interested in knowing,,,,I have the original bill of sale,,,,how would I know if the strip is wood
or metal,,( stupid question I know) but would like to know what it is.

All my life I have never learned as much as on the Forum,,,,the other guy Hankey has a Marathon going on,,,and Im here looking under
my guitar in the dark with a flashlite.

My wife came in at 2 oclock this morning,,,she saw me on the floor with the flash light and said,,,What are you doing???
I said go to sleep,,,Im looking for my strip. A guy my age looking for a strip,,a stripper I can see ,,,,,but a guitar strip??
Sorry had to "edit" my flashlight batteries went dead.....damm those "eveready" batteries[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 09 September 2001 at 02:42 PM.]

Jay Ganz · Post by **Jay Ganz** » 9 Sep 2001 4:47 pm

Here ya go John > > > >

<img src=http://members.localnet.com/~jsganz/74Emmons.jpg>

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Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 10 Sep 2001 8:03 am

Jody, On the pedal stop where you connect the pedal rods, and the adjustment screw hits, you can use a magnet to check if it is steel or wood.This piece will be totally flocked,(just like my career). I feel your guitar will be metal since it is a fat-back. Jody, we are all glad your back on here being the funny-self that you used to be.I've spent many hours on the floor laughing at your great humor. Wish I had all the great guitars you have had and wish I had them right now.
Your buddy,
Bobbe [This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 10 September 2001 at 09:04 AM.]

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 10 Sep 2001 11:41 am

Bobbe,,,,you are a "genius" I would have never thought of that,,,yes the "magnet" sticks,,,,,,appreciate that..I dont have the guitars you think I have,,,,I wished I had that Bigsby back though.

All I have now is a Quad stringmaster 24/1/2
A Custom triple mint condition
and the Emmons,,,,thats all I have left...
Thanks for the info....appreciate it....now I dont have to lie on my back with "I got tears in my ears from lying on my back on the floor when I think about you Bobbe Seymour. It rhymes too Homer & Jethro "circa
1950 [This message was edited by Jody Carver on 10 September 2001 at 05:08 PM.]

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 10 Sep 2001 11:55 am

i'm just trying to learn how to get pics up....check these to see not-too-great pics of the 'Fat One' i rebuilt and refinished last year.....and thanx to the forum members who helped with their generous knowledge when i had questions!
http://pedalsteel.homestead.com/files/embk.JPG http://pedalsteel.homestead.com/files/emlogo.JPG http://pedalsteel.homestead.com/files/emdrkbk.JPG http://pedalsteel.homestead.com/files/end.JPG http://pedalsteel.homestead.com/files/MY_DO114.JPG

i don't know how to make 'em all come up automatically and on the same page yet....

hey bobbe s., do you or anyone else know where to get the metal strips fot the bottom edges of the cabinet you're talking about....mine are gone, and i do have some cab-drop.....but also a very bitchin' tone!
dual coil pickups. i have just over $7 total invested in this steel.....and it's worth every penny!

[This message was edited by chris ivey on 10 September 2001 at 01:02 PM.]

chris ivey · Post by **chris ivey** » 10 Sep 2001 12:11 pm

oops...now the edit isn't bringing up the whole post so that would be ..."for" the bottom...and 'split coil' pickups or whatever it's called with the switch selecting all or half ot the coil.[This message was edited by chris ivey on 10 September 2001 at 01:13 PM.][This message was edited by chris ivey on 25 April 2003 at 03:53 PM.]

Bob Knight · Post by **Bob Knight** » 10 Sep 2001 12:21 pm

Chris,
The metal strips are just flat strap type stock, 1/8" thick X 3/8" wide X 31" long mounted with counter sunk flat head wood screws on the bottom edges of the aprons. It shoud be readily available.

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Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 10 Sep 2001 1:40 pm

What he said!

Gene Jones · Post by **Gene Jones** » 10 Sep 2001 2:24 pm

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Greg Derksen · Post by **Greg Derksen** » 12 Sep 2001 12:08 pm

Bobby, Is Sonny Garrish's guitar after these
fatbacks? If so what Year? Greg

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 12 Sep 2001 12:32 pm

Yes, Sonny's guitar is a little later than these flat(or fat)back guitars. However he did have one fat back guitar, rosewood, that he used on MANY hit sessions. Sonny does as much recording as anyone in Gnashville,now or ever! An unsung hero, this guy is SOOOOOO under rated!
www.bobbeseymour.com

Greg Derksen · Post by **Greg Derksen** » 12 Sep 2001 5:07 pm

Thanx for your info, He's a true pro, thats
underrated in some ways, His tone is very
unique, but I think its his vibrato that
makes it that way, his notes sound like him.
Greg

Bobby Boggs · Post by **Bobby Boggs** » 12 Sep 2001 7:36 pm

Ole Dantoft.I hope you enjoy #1646 as much as I did.Does it still have the Picking parlor decal on it? Frank may have taken it off.
Does anyone know where #1612 is.Another one of mine.-------bb

basilh · Post by **basilh** » 13 Sep 2001 3:39 pm

I presume my two Emmons' are "fatbacks"
the ser.No.s of My
guitars are 1340 D and 1416 D
(Both from 1970 I believe)

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Ole Dantoft · Post by **Ole Dantoft** » 14 Sep 2001 2:34 pm

Bobby B,
I'm sure enjoying it !! It plays about as smooth as anything I've tried, and the sound is just fantastic !

No, that decal is gone - it's about as clean as a new guitar actually. Were you the original first owner of this beauty ?

Ole

Bobby Boggs · Post by **Bobby Boggs** » 19 Sep 2001 12:21 pm

Ole,I bought the guitar in 1977.I was the second owner.It was my primary axe till late 1990.I still used the guitar for practice and casuals until Dec 97.
About the decal. I put it on because Buddy Emmons had that decal on several guitars.At that time in my life,what ever Buddy did I tried to do.It didn't help my playing, but boy was I cool!

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Ole Dantoft · Post by **Ole Dantoft** » 20 Sep 2001 11:46 am

Bobby,
Thanks a lot. It's good to know the history of a wonderfull instrument like this one.

As for Buddy, my favorite steel-instrumental is Londonderry Air/Danny Boy BE-style, but I'd NEVER dare to play it in public

Ole

Jody Carver · Post by **Jody Carver** » 20 Sep 2001 6:30 pm

Hey Guys,,,,I was in a resturant last week & saw a "fat back" I looked under the apron & almost got arrested,,,,the waitress with the
"fat back" got a nice tip from me for her
trouble. Couldnt hear or see the Difference.

Ya seen one,,,you have seen them all...they all look the same,,,beauty is in the eyes of the beholder,,,I was beholding that day.

Bobbe Seymour · Post by **Bobbe Seymour** » 20 Sep 2001 7:38 pm

Fat back also used to be a great type of "beat" used by drummers in the sixtys for a type of Rock music,and I loved it! Jody, remember? It wasn't country but it sure felt good though. Most new drummers today don't know what it is. I miss it even though it didn't work all that well on "Night Life".
Jody, so good to see you on the forum buddy,I've missed your intelligence and humor! Does anyone have or remember the LeGrande "fatbacks" from the early eightys?
J. Rodney Scattergood III [This message was edited by BobbeSeymour on 20 September 2001 at 08:39 PM.]

Bobby Boggs · Post by **Bobby Boggs** » 20 Sep 2001 8:14 pm

No, but I have a fatback Legrande III on order.

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