How many lower 12th string to C# on extended E9

Jerry Hayes · Post by **Jerry Hayes** » 12 Feb 2003 8:47 am

I was just wondering how many of you who play an extendeded E9, lowered their 12th string E to C#. I've seen a couple who lower it with their 4 & 8 raises to F. I have the Brumley change on pedal 1 which raises the 7th string to G# and I was lowering the 3rd string G# to G on the same pedal. I wasn't using that much so I put the 12th string lower on and I'm really happy with this. It sort of gives me a BooWah thing on an E9 tuning. Since I tune my 9th string to C# I get a good 6/7 chord with this lower. Also since it's on the same pedal as the one which raises my 7th string to G# I don't have that 4th sticking out in the middle of my C#7 chord and can strum the whole thing all the way across. I also have a LKL which lowers the 10th string to Bb (A#) which gives me a good usable C#6th if needed. I've been experimenting with this for about a week now and am finding all kinds of good stuff here......Have a good 'un.

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Bobby Lee · Post by **Bobby Lee** » 12 Feb 2003 9:50 am

I do.

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Earnest Bovine · Post by **Earnest Bovine** » 12 Feb 2003 11:07 am

Not me.
I prefer all 3 E -> +F on one knee lever.

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » 12 Feb 2003 11:12 am

I also raise all three E's on one lever. I rarely use it, but I probably wouldn't use it as a C# either. I can't think of any single string licks to use with that change, and when it comes to playing chords in that lower register, I'm usually on the C6 neck.

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Drew Howard · Post by **Drew Howard** » 12 Feb 2003 4:07 pm

On my Carter 12 I lower the low E to C# with the "F" lever.

Drew

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Al Marcus · Post by **Al Marcus** » 12 Feb 2003 9:34 pm

Same as b0b. I put the E to C# on my E to F knee lever. The only difference I do it on my E6 tuning, I also play the A and B- E9 pedals on E6....al

Dave Frye · Post by **Dave Frye** » 13 Feb 2003 11:37 am

I use it for a lot of rhthym chops. Bobbe Lee does too. It really is handy to have those low notes when you do that kind of stuff! Ole Dave Frye

Bill Stafford · Post by **Bill Stafford** » 18 Feb 2003 11:48 am

Jerry, I raise my 13th string B to C#. Also this string is lowered to G# with pedal eight standard change. Glad to see all this interest here..

Bill Stafford

Chris Brooks · Post by **Chris Brooks** » 19 Feb 2003 7:40 am

I have that change on the E to F lever and like it.

Chris

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Rick Schmidt · Post by **Rick Schmidt** » 19 Feb 2003 10:15 am

I also lower the low E on my D12's extended E9 neck to a C#, but I also RAISE the 9th stg. D to D# along with it on the same pedal(a "0" pedal on the far left side...I've got 10 floor peds, so I can do it). It makes for an intensely gorgeous C#min11!!!

On bOb's sugestion, I chose NOT to raise the low E along with the other 2 E's on the "F" knee lever. That way, when I hit the "F" lever and press my "0" pedal, I get a great C#dom that I can easily make into a strait major by pressing the A ped right next to it.(emmons setup)

It's entirely because of that dumb string & pedal combination that I still secretly want to spend big bucks on a state of the art D12,(that I can lift...unlike my Dekley) when it would be so much easier to stick with a D10.

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Emmett Roch · Post by **Emmett Roch** » 19 Feb 2003 2:15 pm

I have my 11th (low G#) string on my B pedal and I raise & lower my 12th (low E) with the E knee levers.

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Bengt Erlandsen · Post by **Bengt Erlandsen** » 20 Feb 2003 5:19 am

I lower the 12 E - C# on my P4 which also lowers String 1&7 to F#-F.

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Mike Perlowin · Post by **Mike Perlowin** » 20 Feb 2003 5:28 am

I also lower my low E string to C# on the E-F knee lever, but it's the 11th rather than 12th string on my universal. I also lower it on a second knee lever so I can get a bass note for the C# minor chord.

I also lower the low B (12th) string to A on the A pedal. It's a very cool change. Some of you in California have heard me use it at the various jams we've had here.

ed packard · Post by **ed packard** » 20 Feb 2003 7:59 am

I don't lower or raise anything to get the 12th string C#, ..my 12th string IS C# on a 14 string E9/B6/A6/13 series setup.