Cable brand of Choice

Steel guitar amplifiers, effects, etc.

Moderator: Shoshanah Marohn

User avatar
Larry Bressington
Posts: 2809
Joined: 6 Jul 2006 12:01 am
Location: Nebraska

Cable brand of Choice

Post by Larry Bressington »

What are we using... Hosa? George L? Monster Gold tips?
A.K.A Chappy.
User avatar
Jack Stoner
Posts: 22087
Joined: 3 Dec 1999 1:01 am
Location: Kansas City, MO

Post by Jack Stoner »

This has been covered time and time and time and time again on this forum.
GFI Ultra Keyless S-10 with pad (Black of course) TB202 amp, Hilton VP, Steelers Choice sidekick seat, SIT Strings (all for sale as package)
Cakewalk by Bandlab and Studio One V4.6 pro DAWs, MOTU Ultralite MK5 recording interface unit
User avatar
Greg Cutshaw
Posts: 6610
Joined: 17 Nov 1998 1:01 am
Location: Corry, PA, USA
Contact:

Post by Greg Cutshaw »

A great topic that comes up over and over and sometimes there are new cables that appear on the market. For me it's George L's, thin cable with the new style right angle plugs and standard stright ends. They sound great and are good mechanically but could be better. In the studio it's no big deal to repair a loose end. On the road or at a gig I wold prefer factory soldered or crimped ends.

Greg
User avatar
Hook Moore
Posts: 4103
Joined: 4 Aug 1998 11:00 pm
Location: South Charleston,West Virginia

Post by Hook Moore »

George L's
Last edited by Hook Moore on 27 Feb 2013 11:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
Eddie Freeman
Posts: 346
Joined: 13 Feb 2007 1:41 pm
Location: Natchez Mississippi

cords

Post by Eddie Freeman »

I use George L's, I also meg them out before I leave for a gig.
James Wolf
Posts: 223
Joined: 31 Jan 2013 5:17 pm
Location: Georgia

Re: cords

Post by James Wolf »

Eddie Freeman wrote:I use George L's, I also meg them out before I leave for a gig.
Meg them out? What is that?
User avatar
Eric Philippsen
Posts: 1966
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 5:38 pm
Location: Central Indiana, USA

Post by Eric Philippsen »

It's true that this topic has been covered time and again. But so has tuning, amp choice, favorite steel guitars, and on an on.

That's all a part of an on-line discussion board. It USED to bother me but I finally came to the realization that it's not a big deal at all. Heck, I often find myself reading those repeat-postings and learning something I didn't know before.

And that might happen with this one! I, too, wanna know what "meg-out" means in regard to a cable. I'm guessing it just means putting your cables on an ohmmeter to check for shorts. Is that right?
Jack Ritter
Posts: 1104
Joined: 5 May 2005 12:01 am
Location: Enid, Oklahoma, USA

Post by Jack Ritter »

Geo L, for a long time. jack
Zum D10 8x5,rev pre-amp, TC M300, Split 12, n-112, IZZY, Hilton vp, Geo L, BJS Hughey, Live Steel
User avatar
Michael Hummel
Posts: 467
Joined: 13 Jun 2012 8:53 am
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Post by Michael Hummel »

Meg them out? What is that?
"Meg them out" is an old-timer expression which is short for "measuring them on a megohmmeter" to check for proper electrical behaviour. You want the tip-to-tip resistance to be close to zero, the sleeve-to-sleeve resistance to be close to zero, and the tip-to-sleeve resistance to be infinite.

Today most of us have "VOMs" (Volt-Ohm-Milliammeter) which has superseded the "Megger" on most electronic benches.

One thing you can't tell from "megging" is the capacitance of a cable. I have a Monster "Jazz" cable which seems to have a deliberately high capacitance in order to roll off the high end to give that smooth jazz guitar sound. It really wrecks the sound of my steel. The only reason I bought it was that my local shop was out of stock on most cables and I desperately needed to bring a new one out to a rehearsal one night.

Mike
MSA Classic 5+4
Too many 6-strings and amps to list
User avatar
Larry Bressington
Posts: 2809
Joined: 6 Jul 2006 12:01 am
Location: Nebraska

Post by Larry Bressington »

Thanks fellows, yeah i know it's a wore out question...I have been out of touch with a lot of technological advances in the last 10 years...It seems like i every time i turn around there is something 'Better'... New better pre-amps, Better Sounds, better bars, Better Steel's just wondering what's a better Cable than a standard $10.00 one.

I am interested in the George L's but i prefer molded ends too.
A.K.A Chappy.
User avatar
Howard Steinberg
Posts: 604
Joined: 2 Mar 2012 8:46 am
Location: St. Petersburg, Florida , USA

Post by Howard Steinberg »

I've gotten some very good cables from guitarfetish.com
I use their solderless plugs/canle for steel. Prices are very good. Their guitars/pickups/parts are also a good bang for the buck.
Justice Pro Lite (4-5), Justice D-10 (8-5)x2 , Quilter Steelaire, Hilton Pedal, BJ's bar.
User avatar
Richard Sinkler
Posts: 17067
Joined: 15 Aug 1998 12:01 am
Location: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

Post by Richard Sinkler »

I use George L's for the short cables that go from guitar to effects to volume pedal. But, I use Proco or Whirlwind cables to go from the volume pedal to the amp. The pathway for the other band members often means walking in the area of my cord, and they sometimes trip on the George L because when I roll them to fit in my pak-a-seat, they develop a coil (like a spring) and won't lay flat on the floor. I also can not hear a difference whether I use George L's or not.
Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, NV400, NV112 . Playing for 53 years and still counting.
User avatar
Larry Allen
Posts: 1321
Joined: 5 Apr 2004 12:01 am
Location: Kapaa, Kauai,Hawaii

Cables

Post by Larry Allen »

George L's .225 with soldered ends...Larry
Excel steels & Peavey amps,Old Chevys & Motorcycles & Women on the Trashy Side
User avatar
Larry Bressington
Posts: 2809
Joined: 6 Jul 2006 12:01 am
Location: Nebraska

Post by Larry Bressington »

Thanks fellow mates...Thanks Richard, i was wondering about the winding them up and if they coiled or not...I think i'm going to get two 3 footer's...One from my Dobro sim to pedal...and One from Pedal to Pod XT which is set down by rear right leg on a mini mic stand...I think i'll run standard from there to the Console.

Apparantly, George L does have 3ft pre moulded soldered, cables.
A.K.A Chappy.
User avatar
George Seymour
Posts: 870
Joined: 14 Nov 1999 1:01 am
Location: Notown, Vermont, USA

Post by George Seymour »

Planet Waves Solderless, by D'Addario. I'm replacing the George L's .155's I have with these. Much more robust connector and I hear less noise AND greater clarity, they are expensive by the connector individualy but very reasonable with the "Cable Station" kit, (four straights,six 90's and 50 feet of cable) much easier to deal with when wraping up on top of that. Set screw has a predefined stop, no more kinda..guessing how tight. Just my two Cents.
Last edited by George Seymour on 27 Feb 2013 6:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Old Emmons D-10's & Wrap Resound 65, Standel amps!
Old Gibson Mastertones
User avatar
Paddy Long
Posts: 5462
Joined: 19 Aug 2003 12:01 am
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand

Post by Paddy Long »

I use the George L 155's but I have graduated to the newer more robust "Masters" series right angled plugs, they are far superior to the standard RH version IMO
14'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
08'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
94' Franklin Stereo D10 9+8
Telonics, Peterson, Steelers Choice, Benado, Lexicon, Red Dirt Cases.
User avatar
Michael Barone
Posts: 458
Joined: 13 Dec 2004 1:01 am
Location: Downingtown, Pennsylvania
Contact:

Post by Michael Barone »

I did my studio with this:

Here

Capacitance 20pF/ft
User avatar
Bill L. Wilson
Posts: 935
Joined: 14 Aug 2012 12:31 pm
Location: Oklahoma, USA

Cord choice.

Post by Bill L. Wilson »

Love the Geo.L's, thins, for my steel. But all pedals on my guitar board are linked w/little Belden cords and Switchcraft ends. Everything is quiet as a mouse.
Mike Kowalik
Posts: 1752
Joined: 29 Nov 1998 1:01 am
Location: San Antonio,Texas

Post by Mike Kowalik »

Canare cables with Neutrik connectors....
User avatar
Greg Cutshaw
Posts: 6610
Joined: 17 Nov 1998 1:01 am
Location: Corry, PA, USA
Contact:

Post by Greg Cutshaw »

20pf/foot is a great reference point for cable that won't kill off the highs too much. Radio Shack of all places has cable that is about 18pF/Foot but its not well shielded and does not have a tough jacket like the George L's.


Greg
User avatar
Jerry Kippola
Posts: 241
Joined: 11 Jun 2011 8:12 am
Location: UP Michigan, USA

Post by Jerry Kippola »

Canare, Mogami, Gotham----
Adrian Wang
Posts: 134
Joined: 5 Jun 2012 10:55 pm
Location: Singapore

Post by Adrian Wang »

I use Van Den Hul interconnect wire with Neutrik both ends. Only 3 meters to keep within my budget.
recommended by a tech friend, Is it good? - I don't know and I can't tell the difference.
User avatar
Roger Rettig
Posts: 10548
Joined: 4 Aug 2000 12:01 am
Location: Naples, FL
Contact:

Post by Roger Rettig »

I've enjoyed the George Ls since I first used them - like taking a blanket off your amp!

I like the fact that even I can effect a repair. Pricey, but I've had long service from them.
Roger Rettig - Emmons D10
(8+9: 'Day' pedals) Williams SD-12 (D13th: 8+6), Quilter TT-12, B-bender Teles and several old Martins.
----------------------------------
Post Reply