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Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 1 Feb 2013 5:59 pm

That's a shame. At the time I was at University there were postgraduate students in the departments of Mathematics and Philisophy who were doing Doctorate work on the laws of Arithmetic. Had you but pursued this you might be a professor by now.

Paul Graupp · Post by **Paul Graupp** » 2 Feb 2013 3:16 am

b0b: If you had made that full frame black, red instead, would it make any difference or would it still be just NOTHING ??

And besides, I have always thought you had a Masters in Steel Guitar even if it wasn't black !!

Regards, Paul

Harold Dye · Post by **Harold Dye** » 2 Feb 2013 6:13 am

The decussion here has been great but I believe it has fallen short of the mark. A lot can be said of nothin and much has been, but to be fair I think the only way to get to the bottom of this is to look inside the mind of the original poster. His prospective may be entirely different.

Post by **b0b** » 2 Feb 2013 9:10 am

There may be nothing there.

Paul Graupp · Post by **Paul Graupp** » 2 Feb 2013 9:40 am

Perhaps it is like the gallatic black holes they talk about on science shows...do they have a bottom ?

admin · Post by **b0b** » 2 Feb 2013 10:12 am

Well, they aren't really holes, Paul. They are celestial bodies so massive that light can't escape their gravitational field. You could assign an arbitrary top and bottom as we do with maps of our planet, but the terms are dependent on your point of view.

Paul Graupp · Post by **Paul Graupp** » 2 Feb 2013 10:21 am

I guess I was thinking the top (or bottom...) of a hole is just NOTHING so does it exist ? If no light escapes from a black hole how can we see it ? Could it actually be a white hole by the same token or any other color for that matter ??

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 2 Feb 2013 10:35 am

Paul Graupp wrote:...If no light escapes from a black hole how can we see it ? ...

We can't see black holes. We only know they're there because of the gravitational effect on other bodies, and because when a black hole comes in line with a star it blanks out the star, so we see NOTHING.

NOTHING is a great topic. You can post absolutely anything without drifting off-topic, as anything you post off-topic has NOTHING to do with the topic, and so is automatically on-topic.

Paul Graupp · Post by **Paul Graupp** » 2 Feb 2013 10:44 am

Now we're getting somewhere...we can see NOTHING !! And I thought only blind folks could do that...

If it is called Black because we can't see it, then black is the color of NOTHING !! But you're saying it is something...massive beyond belief...

I'm getting confused ! May be time for a nap or some Valium !!

Harold Dye · Post by **Harold Dye** » 2 Feb 2013 11:17 am

May be that this thread is drifting to a black hole and that's why I can't see it.

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 2 Feb 2013 3:29 pm

Black is not a color. It's the complete absence of reflected light.

Paul Graupp · Post by **Paul Graupp** » 2 Feb 2013 5:09 pm

In other word (s)... NOTHING !!

And white is all the colors or in other words...EVERYTHING !

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Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 3 Feb 2013 10:47 am

It depends on whether you're looking at additive or subtractive processes. If you shine together all the colors in the right proportions you end up with white. If you mix together all the colors as dyes in the right proportions you end up with black.

Harold Dye · Post by **Harold Dye** » 3 Feb 2013 11:13 am

What is the difference in all colors as colors and all colors as dyes. Once these are mixed as colors or dyes what about the absence of light. Does the absence of light affect all colors or all dyes? So what colors or dyes are added to make a black hole if it is the absence of light. Sounds like male bovine excrement to me. But what do I know .....nothin..

Paul Graupp · Post by **Paul Graupp** » 3 Feb 2013 11:20 am

Well then, while we're here...what happens if a light source shines on Dark Matter ?? I've noticed they call it that in deference to Black Matter...

Post by **b0b** » 3 Feb 2013 11:50 am

Does it matter?

Paul Graupp · Post by **Paul Graupp** » 3 Feb 2013 2:05 pm

No b0b...I don't think NOTHING Matters to Matter !!

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 3 Feb 2013 4:01 pm

Paul Graupp wrote:Well then, while we're here...what happens if a light source shines on Dark Matter ?? I've noticed they call it that in deference to Black Matter...

Dark matter by its very description is invisible. If you shine a light source of any color on dark matter you will see nothing.

Harold Dye wrote:What is the difference in all colors as colors and all colors as dyes. Once these are mixed as colors or dyes what about the absence of light. Does the absence of light affect all colors or all dyes? So what colors or dyes are added to make a black hole if it is the absence of light. Sounds like male bovine excrement to me. But what do I know .....nothin..

Dyes and paints are filters. For instance, if you shine white light on blue paint, or through blue dye, you will get blue. Actually you'll get blue with some seepage from the colors next to blue. If you mix in red paint or dye, you will further restrict what you see to the colors between red and blue, in other words purple. The more colors you add, the closer it gets to black. That's the subtractive process, and it applies to all paints and dyes.

On the other hand we have the additive process. Shine a blue light on the wall and you see blue. Add a red light and you will see blue and red, but as a mixture. If you keep adding lights you will end up with white.

The absence of light dims all colors. For instance, with no light source you have no light, and so no colors. The absence of reflected light, caused by shining on a non-reflective surface (black) and again you have no light and no colors.

Black holes are created by gravity. They have nothing to do with color. They're just called black holes because they're invisible, as their gravity is so high that everything gets sucked in and nothing gets out, not even light,

Male bovine excrement, on the other hand, is a mixture of several colors, and is usually brown.

Harold Dye · Post by **Harold Dye** » 3 Feb 2013 6:19 pm

Question...does a black hole or the color black have an odor? With all the dyes and colors added or subtracted there must be some residue that can be detected by the sense of smell. If so do black guitars stink or emit an odor of roses? I think I can safety say male bovine excretment is odoriferous and varies in consistency.

Scott Shipley · Post by **Scott Shipley** » 3 Feb 2013 7:36 pm

Nothing

Ray Minich · Post by **Ray Minich** » 4 Feb 2013 9:36 am

"Nothing" is what I replied when my wife asked what I was looking at on the internet...turning off the monitor as she approached and swiftly depressing the "reset" button.

Nothing is all around us. "Nothing" is what my daughter said she was doing when I asked her "what in the hell are you doing to make all that noise?".

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 4 Feb 2013 9:38 am

Scott Shipley wrote:"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing".

An interesting quotation from Wikepedia:-

A region of space is called a vacuum if it does not contain any matter, though it can contain physical fields. In fact, it is practically impossible to construct a region of space that contains no matter or fields, since gravity cannot be blocked and all objects at a non-zero temperature radiate electromagnetically. However, even if such a region existed, it could still not be referred to as "nothing", since it has properties and a measurable existence as part of the quantum-mechanical vacuum. Where there is supposedly empty space there are constant quantum fluctuations with virtual particles continually popping into and out of existence. It had long been theorized that space is distinct from a void of nothingness in that space consists of some kind of aether, with luminiferous aether postulated as the transmission medium for propagating light waves (whose existence has been disproven in the now famous Michelson-Morley experiment).

Wikepedia adds points missed so far in this discussion, but entirely omits any reference to the grammatic and logic discussions.

Paul Graupp · Post by **Paul Graupp** » 4 Feb 2013 10:36 am

Luminiferous Aether...

Now that is really saying SOMETHING !!

Sorry...Off Topic again

Harold Dye · Post by **Harold Dye** » 4 Feb 2013 11:05 am

Luminiferous Aether...Now I experience some of that each time I visit this post

When you get high on Liminiferous Aether you are really really out there!!

Alan Brookes · Post by **Alan Brookes** » 5 Feb 2013 9:42 am

Paul Graupp wrote:..Sorry...Off Topic again ...

...but your post had NOTHING to do with the topic, so it was therefore on-topic.

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