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Gordy Rex


From:
Southport, NC
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2013 8:00 am    
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A friend of mine just got this guitar and would like any information about it. If anyone can help please fill me in... Joe wrote:

The number is 7 194, the 194 and is stamped in the metal body underneath. Maybe if you get time you can either tell me where to look or find out the info for me. Appreciate any help. Joe


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richard burton


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Britain
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2013 8:35 am    
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It looks like an old pull-release ShoBud to me, although the photo is so indistinct it might be a fingertip model.
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Ricky Davis


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Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2013 9:19 am    
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I could tell you all about it; But not just from that one photo. I would have to see underneath also and a little closer shots. There are so many differences in all the shobuds thru the years..."one picture does not tell any of the story".
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Gordy Rex


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Southport, NC
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2013 10:34 am    
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Thanks Ricky, you are correct not much to go on... I'll see if Joe can take a few more and I'll post them...
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 26 Jan 2013 4:29 pm    
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I'm thinkin' it's a late model Permanent. Doesn't seem to be enough room behind the changer for an F-Tips tuning mechanics. I zoomed in as much as I could, until it just became murky. Hard to tell from the pic. As Ricky said, we need more pics! Perms built during the Fingertip era used F-tip parts. No sense casting anything more than they needed.



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Jussi Huhtakangas

 

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Helsinki, Finland
Post  Posted 27 Jan 2013 10:54 pm    
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Like John said, later ( mid 60's ) permanent, most likely Nashville, not Madison made. Originally a double neck since singles on a double body and pad didn't exist then. Vol and tone controls from the end plate seem to be missing too.
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Gordy Rex


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Southport, NC
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2013 3:30 pm    
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Thanks for the info....Joe sent a few more pix's





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James Morehead


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Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
Post  Posted 31 Jan 2013 7:16 am    
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Gordy, Get some pics of the tops side--lighter so we can see the keyhead, and then the changer, as well as a few angles. What you have is a permanant from the fingertip era. Perms were made along side of the fingertips between '63 and '67 and they were more of a "hybrid"--useing the perm changer with a fingertip under carriage--a nice upgrade. Pre '63 perms used the welded undercarriage-thus the name "permanant". If you wanted to change your setup, you had to cut up the undercarriage and reweld it. So yours is using the best of both worlds for the time period.
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Paul Redmond

 

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Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 12 Feb 2013 11:23 pm    
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That guitar is a Miller based on the parts underneath. The FP stops, the KL in the last pic, and the inside of the LH endplate all appear to be Miller. The changer housing also appears to be Miller and I would guess circa 1972 or 1973. The bellcranks are for sure Miller cranks, but I believe those cranks were also used on fingertip Bud's.
Chances are the guitar is a one-off hybrid that someone built using a S-B fretboard, etc.
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