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Jeff Metz Jr.


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York, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 10 Jan 2013 10:09 pm    
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Is there such a thing as a 2 way knee lever?
Example being:
Say a knee lever hangs vertical when not in use, but when pushed to the left it makes a change (lower) and when pushed to the right it make another change (raise). This would allow a crazy copedent unless I am way off the mark and this has already been done.
To be honest, I feel that with the simplicity of the idea, I am probably exercising ignorance. If this has been done , please inform me of the instances.
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Jeff Metz Jr.


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York, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 10 Jan 2013 10:10 pm     ?
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after reading my own post, Is this what a push/pull technically is? thanks
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2013 1:22 am    
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Actually, push-pull and pull-release guitars have their crossrods always rotating the same direction, with lowers between shaft and the underside of the guitar and raises below (when the guitar is upright) the shaft.
The exception is some student model guitars, being pull-release, and *KR being only capable of working lowers.

If you wanted a lever to do double duty, I can envision how one could modify both a Zum LKR system and the MSA LKR system to actuate a different shaft in the leftward motion. But it'd be far simpler to use the cross-shaft there as a LKL, and put a Zum LKR bracket straddling it, working a remote shaft.
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Bill Plemmons

 

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Simpsonville, SC
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2013 12:44 pm    
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Larry Moore has such a knee lever on his Emmons LG. Maybe he could enlighten all of us.

Bill
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Jeff Garden


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Center Sandwich, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2013 1:00 pm    
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activating a LKR(L) could be fun to watch....
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Jeff Metz Jr.


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York, Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2013 1:07 pm    
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I see your point Jeff g. It would take some practice but not impossible
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Jeff Metz Jr.


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Post  Posted 11 Jan 2013 1:09 pm    
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I see your point Jeff g. It would take some practice but not impossible
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2013 3:07 pm    
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It has been done, but it's not popular. The actuating part is easy enough, but on the one I saw, the player had to remove the lever to case the guitar (the lever worked on both necks). Of course, it could also be done with a lever that folded across the guitar, instead of lengthwise, I guess. Bottom line is that the only gain would be a weight reduction of a few ounces. Setup and adjustment would likely be more difficult, and some players already have 8 or 9 levers, so I don't see where it would be a big advantage.
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Dave Little


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Atlanta
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2013 5:24 pm    
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I have such a lever on my Legrande II.
On E9 neck, the LKR lowers the Es. Moving my left knee around to play C6 that same lever becomes LKL (replaced the pedal 8 boo wah).
Mac Atcheson made this mod for me some years ago.
Dave Little
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John Swain


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Winchester, Va
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2013 6:12 pm    
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it's pretty easy to do on a p/p,had one setup in the 70's.You need a separate cross-shaft but you can modify the LkR to pull both ways
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 11 Jan 2013 7:56 pm    
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Here's Bruce's LKR. Notice how it's on a tower that straddles a shaft, and the reverser is contained in the bracket. You could put one atop the CLKL shaft. Only downside is two levers

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Marvin Born

 

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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 12 Jan 2013 9:23 am    
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There was such guitar at St Louis two years ago. It has fifteen knee levers, two were bi-directional. I think the two served E9. Then you moved you knee to the center and it was C6.

It was purple and may have been an Excel. Maybe some from St Louis will remember it.

Marvin


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David Nugent

 

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Gum Spring, Va.
Post  Posted 12 Jan 2013 10:53 am    
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Marvin...That was an Excel and was for sale on 'Scotty's' website a year or so ago. May have been custom built for Buddy Cage?
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Larry Moore


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Hampton, Ga. USA
Post  Posted 12 Jan 2013 1:36 pm     2 way knee lever
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Jeff I do have a 2-way lever on my Emmons LG ll

It works the E-9 neck LKR lowering 8 & 4 and on the C-6 neck LKL lowering 10 & 9, (same as the 8th pedal on C-6) works fine for me, have the same move on my PP but have 2 knees side by side
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