help with push pull date

david berzansky · Post by **david berzansky** » 28 Oct 2002 5:31 pm

i got my first push pull a couple of months ago and i am wondering about the date. the serial # is stamped under the end plate and it is 6726. from the info i have seen on other serial numbers mine doesnt seem to jive? any thoughts?
thanks much
david b

Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 28 Oct 2002 5:50 pm

Early to mid 1980's

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david berzansky · Post by **david berzansky** » 28 Oct 2002 6:05 pm

yeah, thats what i kind of figured. its really pretty clean and doesnt seem to have a lot of time on it. thanks for the quick reply. while i have the attention of you p/p guys, this steel has the legrand style pedals and while i thought at first i might like them better, i wonder now if i would like the older style pedals more. how could i come by those old pedals and are they interchangable or does it mean a whole new pedal board.
thank you
david b

David Mullis · Post by **David Mullis** » 28 Oct 2002 6:23 pm

I don't think they're interchangeable. Then again, I haven't looked at a legrande pedal rack in a while. I'd wonder about the pedal spacing too.

david berzansky · Post by **david berzansky** » 28 Oct 2002 8:42 pm

yeah i bet your right david. i would think pedal spacing would be the biggie and i dont expect to be able to just swap the pedals out but i really dont know. i havent looked at a older emmons pedal rack in a while so we shall see. i know somebody knows out there.
thanks
david b

Allan Thompson · Post by **Allan Thompson** » 29 Oct 2002 2:49 am

Hi Dave,

I have serial #6463 it is dated 1982. I also have the newer pedals. A friend has one with the older pedals, I don`t think they are interchangeable, they are also a lot heavier. Hope this is of some help.
Allan.

David Mullis · Post by **David Mullis** » 29 Oct 2002 5:42 am

Just remember, if you do get a chance to try another pedal rack, that there are 2 types of the cast (old style) pedals. The older ones, like the ones on my 71 are wider and spaced further apart, the newer ones are narrower and closer together.

Buck Grantham · Post by **Buck Grantham** » 7 Nov 2002 9:25 am

I've had both kind of pedals and I like the le grande pedals a lot better. The Emmons I have now I think is an 81 model . Wood body , wood necks. Great sounding guitar.

Bill Moore · Post by **Bill Moore** » 7 Nov 2002 3:18 pm

My Emmons is serial # 2923, I believe that it is an '81 model. Did the serial numbers change to the 6000's in '82? Just wondering.

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Herb Steiner · Post by **Herb Steiner** » 7 Nov 2002 3:59 pm

Bill
You're correct. I had a late 82-early 83 PP that was a 6100 series number.

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Terry Edwards · Post by **Terry Edwards** » 8 Nov 2002 8:31 am

http://www.steelguitar.com/resource/pushpullinfo/d10pushpull_sn.htm

P-P s/n reference chart from Carter Steel Guitar web site.

Terry

Gary Walker · Post by **Gary Walker** » 8 Nov 2002 6:45 pm

David, according to Paul Crawford that I bought it from, that P/P is dated sometime in '84. I almost kept that pedal rack for Tommy White's P/P that I have but never tried to see if they would swap. The latest P/P that I have seen on the Forum is '85.

Donny Hinson · Post by **Donny Hinson** » 10 Nov 2002 3:36 pm

This is the story that I've heard...

Emmons stopped making P/P's as their regular production guitar in late '81, or early '82. They continued, however, to make them on a special order only basis for another 5 or 6 years! <u>These</u> are the guitars that have the high (6XXX) serial numbers. Rumor has it that the last P/P that Emmons actually made might have been as late as '88 or '89.