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Topic: If you had an extra $3000.00 |
Jeff Metz Jr.
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York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 5 Oct 2012 10:34 pm |
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I thought I would change things up from the usual "WHats the best steel guitar" topic, to What steel would you buy if you had an extra say....$3000.00 Cash.
I am currently saving up for a steel and would love to know what you guys would be on the hunt for. Im talking used, new, prospects. anything.
THanks
-Jeff 
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 5 Oct 2012 11:19 pm
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There are a couple of all-pull steels which a mate of mine once owned that I was quite impressed with, due to the lack of the dreaded 'zing' exhibited by most all-pull steels.
I know all steels are different, even two supposedly identical models from the same maker, but if these two steels are representitive of every steel the makers build, I would seek one of them out.
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 6 Oct 2012 3:38 am
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| Of course, you must keep in mind that three grand won't buy many new steels today, at least in double neck form. That in mind, maybe I'd opt for a ZB or 'Bud in an older model, or a Fulawka in the newer one. Nothing else out there interests me that much. |
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Bill Moore
From:
Manchester, Michigan
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Posted 6 Oct 2012 4:13 am
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| It depends; if you don't have a ton of playing experience, buy a used Carter, and put the other thousand in the bank. if you've played long enough to have some opinions, just shop around until you see something you like. |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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john widgren
From:
Wilton CT
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Posted 6 Oct 2012 6:49 am 3k
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PM sent..
best, JW
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Cliff Kane
From:
the late great golden state
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Posted 6 Oct 2012 8:52 am
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Dependaing on the configuaration you want, D10 or S10/S12? If I was looking for a good solid D10, Carters come up on the forum for very reasonable prices and they are very good and seem like a good bang for the buck for the prices they've been posted for lately. Or wait for some hard-up fool to come along and give away his push-pull for the budget you're in.  |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 6 Oct 2012 11:28 am
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At 3K, I think your best bet would be a Mickey-rebuilt Mullen, a good clean Zum or Fessy.
A quick zip around the forum shows several good axes in the 2-3K range
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Tony Dingus
From:
Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 6 Oct 2012 3:51 pm
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Check out the Russler.
Tony |
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Ray Montee
From:
Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 6 Oct 2012 5:14 pm I've always wondered................
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For the last ten years, I've wondered WHY?....hadn't someone taken it upon themselves to give the rest of us a factual and unbiased appraisal of each of the current pedal steels on the market.
When I bought mine, BIGSBY and EMMONS, there weren't that many to really get overwhelmed with.
Today, however, there are so many choices and I imagine all are really top quality guitars. It would be nice to know which ones have the least maintanence free units, the most trouble=free and
accurate changer mechanisms, finest finishes, etc.
Any of you up to providing such an informative sheet or web page? |
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Daniel McKee
From:
Corinth Mississippi
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Posted 6 Oct 2012 6:10 pm
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| EMMONS I personally like the all pull models but the pushpulls are equally awesome. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 6 Oct 2012 7:45 pm
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Ray, I don't think any such a comparison chart would be totally objective; even if it were, so many folks would regard it as biased on the grounds that it didn't conform to THEIR biases.
Once a guitar is more than 5 years old, the care of the owner starts playing a role as well.
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 6 Oct 2012 9:34 pm
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for me, that would have to be a working pro model d10/
i've seen lots of good deals lately. lane is right about the mickey mullenses, and fessendens. i've seen push pulls near that top mark or below. great carters for 'under' $2000, that cool turquoise mullen at $2500..lotsa good stuff out there.
i don't think there are any infinities for that price range. |
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Daniel Policarpo
From:
Kansas City
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Posted 7 Oct 2012 3:07 am
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| For me, I can't imagine anything finer than a good ZumSteel or Sho-Bud LDG. But my experience is limited and I am fantasizing a bit. |
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Larry Baker
From:
Columbia, Mo. U.S.A.
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Posted 7 Oct 2012 8:46 am
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A new Mullen discovery, and $500. left over for a good amp, or whatever.
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 7 Oct 2012 8:55 am Re: I've always wondered................
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| Ray Montee wrote: |
| For the last ten years, I've wondered WHY?....hadn't someone taken it upon themselves to give the rest of us a factual and unbiased appraisal of each of the current pedal steels on the market...? |
The person to do that would have to be someone who owns a pedal steel store, someone like Bobbe Seymour. Most players can't afford a plethora of instruments, but someone like Bobbe would have almost every model pass through his hands over the years, and have played most of them.
It's a great idea. I hope someone takes it up some day before I'm too old to read it.  |
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Bud Angelotti
From:
Larryville, NJ, USA
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Posted 7 Oct 2012 11:34 am
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Ray - Maybe no one wants to start an absolute riot or pie fight. 
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Bo Legg
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Posted 7 Oct 2012 1:07 pm
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I remember when a Sho-Bud and an Emmons P/P PSG were about the same price and it seems that there were more Sho-Buds sold than Emmons.
Today there are more used Sho-Buds available because of that fact and they sell for less than a P/P simply for that reason.
Limiting yourself to $3000 is a good thing in that it will keep you from buying a used pain in rear P/P and having to lie the rest of your life about how much better it sounds than any other PSG just because you don't want to admit you paid too much for it. |
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Billy Tonnesen
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R.I.P., Buena Park, California
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Posted 7 Oct 2012 1:23 pm
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Doesen't how well an instrument holds up and is trouble free depend, like a Car, how many miles you put on it in a period of time. In So.Calif. back in the 50's and 60's there were so many clubs and gigs that one could work seven days a week and twice on Sunday if you wanted to ! Also, how much time was spemt practicing or working up arrangements during the day. How many times does a rig have to be broken down and set up in a certain period of time ! A Pedal Steel Guitar IMHO is basically a mechanical instrument and subject to differen't rates of wear and tear.
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Cliff Kane
From:
the late great golden state
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Posted 7 Oct 2012 2:42 pm
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| Bo Legg wrote: |
I remember when a Sho-Bud and an Emmons P/P PSG were about the same price and it seems that there were more Sho-Buds sold than Emmons.
Today there are more used Sho-Buds available because of that fact and they sell for less than a P/P simply for that reason.
Limiting yourself to $3000 is a good thing in that it will keep you from buying a used pain in rear P/P and having to lie the rest of your life about how much better it sounds than any other PSG just because you don't want to admit you paid too much for it. |
Why the hate for push-pulls? I have had the pleasure of owning two, and both of them sounded better, has less mechanical issues, held their tuning better, and were more satisfying to play than the Sho-Bud, EMCI, or Zum that I owned. I never felt that I paid too much for my p/p's, in fact I felt that I got a good value for a truly fine instrument, more so than the others. I never had buyer's remorse with them, but certainly had seller's remorse; again, not so with the others.
In fact, here ya go:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=234452
A little more than the budget in question, but you will be hard pressed to find a higher quality or better sounding guitar for this kind of money. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 7 Oct 2012 3:41 pm
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| Why the hate for push-pulls? |
Well, since you asked... 
I don't see the hate as being for the guitars, but rather, for that certain segment of their (non-pro) owners who come across as being total snobs. |
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Dave O'Brien
From:
Florida and New Jersey
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Posted 7 Oct 2012 4:43 pm $3000.to spend
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To get back on topic. If I had $3000 to spend I would still play one of my late 70's MSA "The Universal" guitars
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Cliff Kane
From:
the late great golden state
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Posted 7 Oct 2012 5:18 pm
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| Why the hate for push-pulls? |
Well, since you asked...
I don't see the hate as being for the guitars, but rather, for that certain segment of their (non-pro) owners who come across as being total snobs. |
I'm not sure what you mean my non-pro snobs vs. non-snob pros, but Jeff asked for opinions on guitars, and Bo said things that disparage the idea of buying a used push-pull, at least that's how it seems to me. I don't think one should write off push-pulls if he is surveying the market. I assume that most pros and non-pros play modern all-pull guitars, and there are certainly many fine guitars out there within Jeff's budget to suit different players. Good luck in your quest, Jeff. |
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Daniel Policarpo
From:
Kansas City
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Posted 7 Oct 2012 5:22 pm
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| I don't know what it is about that shot, David O. but that thing makes me want to strap in and take off to outer space. Pretty sweet ride you got there! |
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Jim Pitman
From:
Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA
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Posted 7 Oct 2012 5:52 pm
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| David O. That looks alot like the MSA U12 I bought in 82. These were fine guitars mechanically. |
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