Reverb preference

Erv Niehaus · Post by **Erv Niehaus** » 13 Aug 2012 7:57 am

I don't think anyone has mentioned it yet but you really need to get next to a Tube Works Real Tube Model RT921 reverb. This is an analog unit with 12 springs. It can either be run two channel or in series for a reverb like no other. I use one in my reack setup.

Kevin Milner · Post by **Kevin Milner** » 13 Aug 2012 8:47 am

Brad Sarno wrote:The engineering staff at Strymon think this is their best reverb pedal. Just leave the tremolo off if you don't want it. I have one, and it's fantastic.

http://www.strymon.net/products/flint/

Brad

+1 for the flint - really happy with mine. I mostly use the plate (70's) settings, but everything is great.

KENNY KRUPNICK · Post by **KENNY KRUPNICK** » 16 Aug 2012 5:13 pm

RV-5, and the Lexicon MPX 100.

Lee Baucum · Post by **Lee Baucum** » 16 Aug 2012 7:18 pm

Kenny - Wouldn't it be great if they could put some of those beautiful Lexicon MPX-100 reverbs in a small, quiet stompbox?

Brett Lanier · Post by **Brett Lanier** » 25 Aug 2012 4:37 pm

Premier 90 spring reverb tank is my new favorite. It's a little noisy, but I'll live with it.

Tommy Shown · Post by **Tommy Shown** » 1 Sep 2012 1:12 pm

I have various hall, chamber, and plate reverbs on my Quadraverb. That I use according to what type of effect, I want to put in to the song That I am going to play, at that time.
Tommy Shown
SMFTBL

Olli Haavisto · Post by **Olli Haavisto** » 1 Sep 2012 1:46 pm

I tried quite a few stompbox reverbs and delays recently and settled on the Hall of Fame and the Flashback, both by TC.
Good tone and excellent price/performance ratio. And it works well in effects loops, too.
Went to see Bill Frisell couple of days ago to find both Frisell and Greg Leisz using Hall of Fames. That puts me in good company, I`d say....

Olli Haavisto · Post by **Olli Haavisto** » 1 Sep 2012 11:51 pm

double

Murray McDowall · Post by **Murray McDowall** » 2 Sep 2012 1:12 am

Hi Guys,
I have a Session 500 and also a NV 112.
Does the Boss RV-5 work OK in the Post EQ patch or does it have to go between the Guitar and Amp?

Many thanks,
Murray.

Eugene Cole · Post by **Eugene Cole** » 3 Sep 2012 8:48 pm

I have been using an Alesis QuadraVerb; but I am open to trying others.

Bill Moran · Post by **Bill Moran** » 9 Sep 2012 5:25 pm

Wet Reverb !

Ken Byng · Post by **Ken Byng** » 10 Sep 2012 10:34 am

This is my favourite reverb that I use with my Webb amp's send/receive. It is superb. The built-in digital reverb in my Roland 80XL amp is more than passable too.

Patrick Hattic · Post by **Patrick Hattic** » 12 Sep 2012 5:05 am

The Strymon Flint is very good. I was using the Hardwire RV-7,it was quite good, the Strymon is even more good.

Brad Sarno · Post by **Brad Sarno** » 12 Sep 2012 6:33 am

Even the guys at Strymon feel that the Flint is their best reverb. It's pretty amazing.

B

Gary Reed · Post by **Gary Reed** » 12 Sep 2012 7:08 am

1. I,m not mentioning any models here, but within any model/module we use, what reverb setting is the longest Reverb with the least amount of decay? Hall, Sring, Plate, etc ?

2. EX. Which setting helps with longest sustain of PSG, if any?

Dave Grafe · Post by **Dave Grafe** » 12 Sep 2012 7:34 am

1. I,m not mentioning any models here, but within any model/module we use, what reverb setting is the longest Reverb with the least amount of decay? Hall, Sring, Plate, etc ?

2. EX. Which setting helps with longest sustain of PSG, if any?

Try again, Gary, I would try to answer your question if I could only figure out what it is you want to know.

On most digital units decay is determined by the "reverb time" regardless of the paradigm, and no reverb adds to or subtracts from the sustain of the instrument itself.....

On a few Lexicon units (PCM70, PCM90 and others) there are separate parameters for length of low and mid-frequency running time PLUS parameters for low and mid-frequency "STOP" time, which determines the slope of the decay AFTER the running time has expired. This "stop" time adjustment is also the closing time for the gated reverb options. Few other units provide this adjustment and it does make a significant difference in the way the effect works, much more so than choosing "hall" or "plate" on any device.

Is that close to what you were asking?

Gary Reed · Post by **Gary Reed** » 12 Sep 2012 7:44 am

On most digital units decay is determined by the "reverb time" regardless of the paradigm, and no reverb adds to or subtracts from the sustain of the instrument itself.....

Yes Dave, you are addressing the issue I'm interested in.
When editing your reverbs, which module do you prefer for general use? Sping, Hall?
Thanks

Brad Sarno · Post by **Brad Sarno** » 12 Sep 2012 7:51 am

Gary Reed wrote:1... what reverb setting is the longest Reverb with the least amount of decay? Hall, Sring, Plate, etc ?

This question is paradoxical. Decay and reverb "length" are the same thing.

Most people find that plates and halls are generally the most steel friendly. Decay times in the 2.6sec to 3.3sec range are common. If you have control over "pre-delay" which is the amount of time that passes before the reverb effect begins, can be cool too when set in the 50ms to 85ms range. Too short a pre-delay and it makes the steel sound far-away. Longer pre-delays bring the steel itself closer and lets you get away with more and bigger reverbs. I think John Hughey preferred the Lexicon's "plate" sound.

And "sustain" comes from your right foot.

B

Gary Reed · Post by **Gary Reed** » 12 Sep 2012 8:02 am

I live in a townhome and have to keep the volume down.
I guess some volume on the amp would help the sustain on the right foot.
I'll try the settings discussed.
Thanks

Gary Reed · Post by **Gary Reed** » 12 Sep 2012 8:13 am

Brad,
Where do you suggest the setting on the Black Box should be?
10,12,14, o'clock?

Brad Sarno · Post by **Brad Sarno** » 12 Sep 2012 8:19 am

Gary, the black box knob kind of depends on the pickup. When playing alone and going for a warmer tone, maybe back around 11 o'clock.

One thing I learned about getting plenty of sustain was to back your volume pedal way down to about 15% or 20% and set your amp so that's about the right volume. Then you have that remaining volume pedal travel for sustain. It is more challenging to control the volume pedal this way because slight moves make bigger volume changes, but it's good training and offers HUGE amounts of available sustain.

Brad

Dave Grafe · Post by **Dave Grafe** » 12 Sep 2012 12:26 pm

The pedal steel presets that I have created for the Lexicon PCM70, TC M-One and Yamaha SPX90 all utilize the Plate paradigms, although I have recorded with Hall patches that were exquisite. The Yamaha REV 7 has a program called "STRINGS" that is maybe the nicest, particularly with the maximum 100ms pre-delay applied. Mostly I use the long-decay Accutronics tanks in my combo amps though....

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