Need Advise on Tuning Emmons P/P

Bruce Etter · Post by **Bruce Etter** » 15 Sep 2002 3:57 pm

I could use some help in tuning the pedals and knee levers on my 1975 Emmons Push/Pull. I need to find out which set-screw on the end plate does what. Does anyone know of a site where I can get a chart for this? I'm a new player (about a year). I'd really appreciate any help that you can provide.

Thanks!

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1975 Emmons D-10 Push/Pull

Larry Bell · Post by **Larry Bell** » 15 Sep 2002 4:08 pm

Sure, it's pretty easy once you get the hang of it.

Take your tuning chart and note two things
1. for each string, what's the furthest it's raised
2. for each string, what's the furthest it's lowered

Assuming your guitar is adjusted properly, follow these steps.

FOR EACH STRING
1. Press the pedal that raises the string the most. Tune that raise with the tuning keys on the left end.
2. Let off the pedal and tune the unraised note using the BOTTOM set screw in the endplate.
3. If you also lower that string, press the pedal or lever that lowers the string and tune the maximum lower with the TOP set screw in the endplate.

If you have strings that are raised or lowered more than once, you will have 'half tone tuners' under your guitar with knurled screws that are used to tune changes that can't be tuned at the endplate. You can only tune the maximum raise and lower at the endplate. If you have other raises/lowers you'll have to use the half tone tuners.

Also, go to John Lacey's website for much more info on the push-pull. Hope this helps. They are truly magnificent machines. Stay in tune well and sound great.

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Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2000 Fessenden S-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Dobro

Jim Vogan · Post by **Jim Vogan** » 15 Sep 2002 4:13 pm

I don't know anything about them, but I did a search and this is what I came up with. [U http://steelguitarforum.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi
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Jim Vogan Emmons Sd10
G.D. Walker Stereo Steel Combo
Hilton volume pedal

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Tim Sergent · Post by **Tim Sergent** » 16 Sep 2002 5:08 pm

Also, Bruce, Bobbe Seymour has a great video on maintaining p/p's. Give him a call!

Craig A Davidson · Post by **Craig A Davidson** » 16 Sep 2002 6:16 pm

Make sure your changer is in tune before you start turning screws.Reach under and pull the raise fingers as far as you can and tune at the endplate. Then tune open at screws. Push the lowers back as far as you need to go to get the lowers to be right and fine tune at endplate. Your changer has to be in tune! Right Mr. Seymour?

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1985 Emmons push-pull, Session 500, Nashville400, 65 re-issue Fender Twin, Fender Tele

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Gary Walker · Post by **Gary Walker** » 16 Sep 2002 10:04 pm

Get the video. You'll always have it for future reference, Gary.

richard burton · Post by **richard burton** » 17 Sep 2002 11:11 am

Craig,
I think your terminology is wrong, and may cause confusion. When you first mention 'endplate', do you mean tuning heads at headstock. Your sentence would then make more sense if that is the case.
Also, beware of pulling the lowers backwards by hand to tune the changer at the endplate; the push rods may fall out.

John Lacey · Post by **John Lacey** » 18 Sep 2002 6:15 am

The tuning of the changer section is covered in my Wilderness guide: http://www.cadvision.com/laceyj/guide.html